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| bossboy302 |
Mar 3 2023, 02:07 PM
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Sorry for re-asking this, but as I begin fiddling with mechanical and electrical components for my project 6 conversion, I am still pondering this decision.
The car, when finished, will be shipped to Europe where my wife and I can use it when we're there, and do some rallies, trips and such. There will likely be (months-long) periods of no use. Have most of the necessary stuff for the build, (included with the '71E motor-entire MFI, fuel filter/console, complete electrical board, fuel pump, etc) all from 'donor' car... But I'm beginning to sense that the complexity of MFI (transducers, fuel system, micro-switches, etc.) could prove challenging. A good set of PMO's on the other hand: basic fuel pump and regulator, MSD 6AL, and a spray can of ether may be better suited, again given the intended use. So, I welcome thoughts and opinions-thanks |
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| ClayPerrine |
Mar 7 2023, 09:54 AM
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There is a lot to be said for the simplicity of carbs. I actually fixed the float on the six with some "percussive maintenance" using a rubber mallet.
In Europe, like it is here in the states, carbs are obsolete. So the availability of parts is limited. However the only specialty part on any aftermarket EFI system would be the ECU. Aftermarket EFI uses sensors and actuators from current production cars. So I would argue that the availability of parts for EFI is better than carbs. And with a notebook computer or even a phone you can access the system and it will, for the most part, tell you what failed. So I think your argument about parts being "hard to obtain in a pinch" is not true. I can walk into a FLAPS, and get a replacement for a failed injector, a TPS or a MAP sensor, because they are all sourced from production cars. All that is needed is a record of the part numbers for the sensors and actuators installed on the car. Another advantage to EFI is that professional help with anything on the system is only a Webex meeting away. In today's connected world, the guy that built your EFI system can remote into your computer/phone and help to fix any issues with the EFI. Having an expert available to help, even remotely, is invaluable. |
| Superhawk996 |
Mar 7 2023, 10:14 AM
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Another advantage to EFI is that professional help with anything on the system is only a Webex meeting away. In today's connected world, the guy that built your EFI system can remote into your computer/phone and help to fix any issues with the EFI. Having an expert available to help, even remotely, is invaluable. I don’t know what languages the OP speaks or where he will travel. Having lived in a small town in Southern Italy for a couple years and not being fluent in Italian, I can only say that it won’t be quite that simple. |
| ClayPerrine |
Mar 7 2023, 10:27 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,542 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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Another advantage to EFI is that professional help with anything on the system is only a Webex meeting away. In today's connected world, the guy that built your EFI system can remote into your computer/phone and help to fix any issues with the EFI. Having an expert available to help, even remotely, is invaluable. I don’t know what languages the OP speaks or where he will travel. Having lived in a small town in Southern Italy for a couple years and not being fluent in Italian, I can only say that it won’t be quite that simple. Ah, but that is the beauty of an interconnected world. You don't need someone local to you to help with the troubleshooting. You can get on a Webex/Zoom meeting with the guy in the US that installed and tuned the EFI system. He can remote in and help you with the troubleshooting. Then using Google translate, you can type in your parts needs in English, and be able to show them the Italian translation to get the correct parts. From experience in Paris, communications is always an issue. But the internet is becoming the universal translator that Star Trek showed us. |
bossboy302 MFI or carbs? Mar 3 2023, 02:07 PM
Superhawk996 MFI is amazing tech for that era. However, hard t... Mar 3 2023, 02:22 PM
Long_ago Agreed.
I went with new webers on my 6. For the si... Mar 3 2023, 02:32 PM
Cairo94507 I 100% agree; you can always swap out to MFI when ... Mar 3 2023, 02:34 PM
r_towle Add in a fuel shutoff (look at the 356) so when yo... Mar 3 2023, 02:44 PM
ClayPerrine You should consider an aftermarket EFI setup.
Mo... Mar 3 2023, 02:50 PM
NARP74 I am guessing the newer EFI systems will cost ... Mar 3 2023, 02:55 PM
mlindner bossboy302. Living in Wisconsin, time on the road ... Mar 4 2023, 08:03 AM
targa72e Mfi once set up requires very little attention. If... Mar 5 2023, 11:22 PM
ClayPerrine
On of the other issues with MFI is that 914 has... Mar 6 2023, 06:35 AM
vitamin914 On my carbed '74 914-4 I have a switch to the ... Mar 6 2023, 08:22 AM
Eric_Shea Modern EFI that looks like carbs. ;)
https://pmbp... Mar 6 2023, 01:08 PM
Superhawk996 EFI is nice and all but that wasn’t what OP aske... Mar 6 2023, 01:37 PM
Eric_Shea OK, OK... Carbs to the OP?
ECU is Holley. Holley... Mar 6 2023, 02:01 PM
ClayPerrine
OK, OK... Carbs to the OP?
ECU is Holley. Holle... Mar 6 2023, 02:27 PM
Superhawk996
OK, OK... Carbs to the OP?
ECU is Holley. Holle... Mar 6 2023, 04:13 PM
r_towle Honestly, it does bring up an interesting reality.... Mar 6 2023, 05:13 PM
930cabman My vote goes to Webers. Mar 6 2023, 05:20 PM
r_towle
My vote goes to Webers.
I’m in the same camp t... Mar 6 2023, 05:24 PM
ClayPerrine
I’m in the same camp today,,, until I learn mor... Mar 7 2023, 06:41 AM
Superhawk996
Dead stock carbs. Well maintained. Driven reg... Mar 7 2023, 07:46 AM
JmuRiz I’m lucky enough to have EFI, MFI and carb exper... Mar 6 2023, 07:55 PM
bossboy302 O P here-first, thank you all for contributing gre... Mar 7 2023, 10:09 AM
peteinjp I’m in the other camp. If you have all the Mfi s... Mar 6 2023, 08:48 PM
NARP74 For the Jenvey carbs, is that price per, or for a ... Mar 7 2023, 09:11 AM
ClayPerrine
For the Jenvey carbs, is that price per, or for a... Mar 7 2023, 09:58 AM
Eric_Shea
[quote name='NARP74' post='3063118' date='Mar 7 2... Mar 8 2023, 01:03 PM
horizontally-opposed
Also the Jenvey will fit common IDF/IDA air clean... Mar 8 2023, 06:25 PM
Superhawk996
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3063130' date='M... Mar 7 2023, 10:47 AM
r_towle
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3063130' date='... Mar 7 2023, 11:09 AM
ClayPerrine
I will say, I learned on new term here.
Percussiv... Mar 7 2023, 12:08 PM
dr914@autoatlanta.com if the mfi is matched (T E and S are all different... Mar 7 2023, 12:38 PM
ClayPerrine Another thing to consider is the location where th... Mar 7 2023, 03:38 PM
bossboy302 Great point!
So with permission, I'll star... Mar 7 2023, 04:23 PM
r_towle Somewhere here is an old thread of a couple who sh... Mar 7 2023, 06:49 PM
Superhawk996 Register stateside and get an EU Carnet to bring i... Mar 7 2023, 07:52 PM
roundtwo @ClayPerrine
@bossboy320
Good point about emissio... Mar 8 2023, 01:21 AM
930cabman
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Mar 8 2023, 06:02 AM
peteinjp
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Mar 8 2023, 03:47 AM
ClayPerrine
MFI has altitude adjustment...
Just sayin.
Pet... Mar 8 2023, 06:30 AM
JmuRiz :idea: Mar 8 2023, 04:51 PM
Eric_Shea Not yet Pete. Bob's was the early Sport air f... Mar 8 2023, 07:09 PM
horizontally-opposed
Not yet Pete. Bob's was the early Sport air ... Mar 9 2023, 03:49 PM
Superhawk996 :hijacked:
OP asks A or B
Answer - you need ... Mar 8 2023, 07:14 PM
Steve
:hijacked: :evilgrin:
:deadhorse:
Tons of in... Mar 8 2023, 07:17 PM
Eric_Shea Ooooooooooooooops! Thread police! :lol:
... Mar 8 2023, 07:33 PM
Superhawk996 Thread police here :cop: It’s all in good fun... Mar 9 2023, 04:18 PM
tygaboy In case anyone cares: my main gripe with Holley EC... Mar 9 2023, 04:35 PM
Superhawk996
In case anyone cares: my main gripe with Holley E... Mar 9 2023, 06:57 PM
tygaboy
In case anyone cares: my main gripe with Holley ... Mar 9 2023, 07:14 PM
Eric_Shea
True dat. This is one of the reasons our builds... Mar 13 2023, 01:47 PM![]() ![]() |
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