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| bossboy302 |
 Mar 3 2023, 02:07 PM
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Sorry for re-asking this, but as I begin fiddling with mechanical and electrical components for my project 6 conversion, I am still pondering this decision.
The car, when finished, will be shipped to Europe where my wife and I can use it when we're there, and do some rallies, trips and such. There will likely be (months-long) periods of no use. Have most of the necessary stuff for the build, (included with the '71E motor-entire MFI, fuel filter/console, complete electrical board, fuel pump, etc) all from 'donor' car... But I'm beginning to sense that the complexity of MFI (transducers, fuel system, micro-switches, etc.) could prove challenging. A good set of PMO's on the other hand: basic fuel pump and regulator, MSD 6AL, and a spray can of ether may be better suited, again given the intended use. So, I welcome thoughts and opinions-thanks |
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| tygaboy |
Mar 9 2023, 04:35 PM
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In case anyone cares: my main gripe with Holley ECUs is that they have a proprietary CAN protocol. Just something to be aware of if you want to do cool stuff with electronics.
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| Superhawk996 |
Mar 9 2023, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 9 2023, 05:35 PM)  In case anyone cares: my main gripe with Holley ECUs is that they have a proprietary CAN protocol. Just something to be aware of if you want to do cool stuff with electronics. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Please elaborate. So they won’t provide a *.DBC file to read their CAN messages? @tygaboy |
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| tygaboy |
Mar 9 2023, 07:14 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,615 Joined: 6-October 15 From: Petaluma, CA Member No.: 19,241 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(Superhawk996 @ Mar 9 2023, 04:57 PM) QUOTE(tygaboy @ Mar 9 2023, 05:35 PM) In case anyone cares: my main gripe with Holley ECUs is that they have a proprietary CAN protocol. Just something to be aware of if you want to do cool stuff with electronics. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Please elaborate. So they won’t provide a *.DBC file to read their CAN messages? @tygaboy @Superhawk996 - Not to my knowledge. I have been unable to find anything that would allow my Holley Dominator to talk with anything other than Holley or (their) RacePak products. There is a company called OneGauge that uses Arduino tech to connect Holley ECUs to their dash but I shouldn't have to / don't want to leverage 3rd party stuff. I can connect a MoTec ECU to an ECU Master PMU, and a Haltech dash. Not so with Holley. Again, I've not found anything, including talking with my tuner, who is pretty tight with Holley. I'd love to be proven wrong but at this point, this limitation is eliminating Holley from consideration on the Ferrari build. Sorry for the hijack... |
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bossboy302 MFI or carbs? Mar 3 2023, 02:07 PM
Superhawk996 MFI is amazing tech for that era. However, hard t... Mar 3 2023, 02:22 PM Long_ago Agreed.
I went with new webers on my 6. For the si... Mar 3 2023, 02:32 PM Cairo94507 I 100% agree; you can always swap out to MFI when ... Mar 3 2023, 02:34 PM r_towle Add in a fuel shutoff (look at the 356) so when yo... Mar 3 2023, 02:44 PM ClayPerrine You should consider an aftermarket EFI setup.
Mo... Mar 3 2023, 02:50 PM NARP74 I am guessing the newer EFI systems will cost ... Mar 3 2023, 02:55 PM mlindner bossboy302. Living in Wisconsin, time on the road ... Mar 4 2023, 08:03 AM targa72e Mfi once set up requires very little attention. If... Mar 5 2023, 11:22 PM
ClayPerrine
On of the other issues with MFI is that 914 has... Mar 6 2023, 06:35 AM vitamin914 On my carbed '74 914-4 I have a switch to the ... Mar 6 2023, 08:22 AM Eric_Shea Modern EFI that looks like carbs. ;)
https://pmbp... Mar 6 2023, 01:08 PM Superhawk996 EFI is nice and all but that wasn’t what OP aske... Mar 6 2023, 01:37 PM Eric_Shea OK, OK... Carbs to the OP?
ECU is Holley. Holley... Mar 6 2023, 02:01 PM ClayPerrine
OK, OK... Carbs to the OP?
ECU is Holley. Holle... Mar 6 2023, 02:27 PM Superhawk996
OK, OK... Carbs to the OP?
ECU is Holley. Holle... Mar 6 2023, 04:13 PM r_towle Honestly, it does bring up an interesting reality.... Mar 6 2023, 05:13 PM 930cabman My vote goes to Webers. Mar 6 2023, 05:20 PM r_towle
My vote goes to Webers.
I’m in the same camp t... Mar 6 2023, 05:24 PM ClayPerrine
I’m in the same camp today,,, until I learn mor... Mar 7 2023, 06:41 AM Superhawk996
Dead stock carbs. Well maintained. Driven reg... Mar 7 2023, 07:46 AM JmuRiz I’m lucky enough to have EFI, MFI and carb exper... Mar 6 2023, 07:55 PM bossboy302 O P here-first, thank you all for contributing gre... Mar 7 2023, 10:09 AM peteinjp I’m in the other camp. If you have all the Mfi s... Mar 6 2023, 08:48 PM NARP74 For the Jenvey carbs, is that price per, or for a ... Mar 7 2023, 09:11 AM ClayPerrine
For the Jenvey carbs, is that price per, or for a... Mar 7 2023, 09:58 AM Eric_Shea
[quote name='NARP74' post='3063118' date='Mar 7 2... Mar 8 2023, 01:03 PM horizontally-opposed
Also the Jenvey will fit common IDF/IDA air clean... Mar 8 2023, 06:25 PM ClayPerrine There is a lot to be said for the simplicity of ca... Mar 7 2023, 09:54 AM Superhawk996
Another advantage to EFI is that professional he... Mar 7 2023, 10:14 AM ClayPerrine
Another advantage to EFI is that professional h... Mar 7 2023, 10:27 AM Superhawk996
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3063130' date='M... Mar 7 2023, 10:47 AM r_towle
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3063130' date='... Mar 7 2023, 11:09 AM ClayPerrine
I will say, I learned on new term here.
Percussiv... Mar 7 2023, 12:08 PM dr914@autoatlanta.com if the mfi is matched (T E and S are all different... Mar 7 2023, 12:38 PM ClayPerrine Another thing to consider is the location where th... Mar 7 2023, 03:38 PM bossboy302 Great point!
So with permission, I'll star... Mar 7 2023, 04:23 PM r_towle Somewhere here is an old thread of a couple who sh... Mar 7 2023, 06:49 PM Superhawk996 Register stateside and get an EU Carnet to bring i... Mar 7 2023, 07:52 PM roundtwo @ClayPerrine
@bossboy320
Good point about emissio... Mar 8 2023, 01:21 AM 930cabman
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Mar 8 2023, 06:02 AM peteinjp
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Mar 8 2023, 03:47 AM ClayPerrine
MFI has altitude adjustment...
Just sayin.
Pet... Mar 8 2023, 06:30 AM JmuRiz :idea: Mar 8 2023, 04:51 PM Eric_Shea Not yet Pete. Bob's was the early Sport air f... Mar 8 2023, 07:09 PM horizontally-opposed
Not yet Pete. Bob's was the early Sport air ... Mar 9 2023, 03:49 PM Superhawk996 :hijacked:
OP asks A or B
Answer - you need ... Mar 8 2023, 07:14 PM Steve
:hijacked: :evilgrin:
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Tons of in... Mar 8 2023, 07:17 PM Eric_Shea Ooooooooooooooops! Thread police! :lol:
... Mar 8 2023, 07:33 PM Superhawk996 Thread police here :cop: It’s all in good fun... Mar 9 2023, 04:18 PM Eric_Shea
True dat. This is one of the reasons our builds... Mar 13 2023, 01:47 PM |
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