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| VaccaRabite |
Nov 3 2022, 12:31 PM
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So, Lets say you had a 2.7L 6 with complete and intact CIS, good compression, taken out of a running car that wanted to go electric.
And lets say you had a Bay Window Westy. And, for the sake of argument - what do you think it would take to put them together. I've got the 915 and the engine and a bus that's about 70% through its restoration. Current plan is to get the bus running on its existing 1.7 first. Then add the engine to the bus transmission and drive it like that. And eventually add the 915 into the mix which may or may not require a bunch of changes. I know that this is a thing that has been done. Anyone done it? For the first stage - I'd need an oil tank (maybe - may have one), and would need tins. A different flywheel and maybe a different clutch - may be able to take these off the bus. I'll need exhaust. Heat isn't a concern - I'm using a diesel heater for heat so I am not worried about heat exchangers. I suppose another option might be to put it into a dune buggy... but no. The bus will like it a good bit more. Zach |
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| Bartlett 914 |
Mar 16 2023, 03:49 PM
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I have a 91 Westy with a Suby 2.5. The power is great but not too much. Gearing is great in the city but I need a higher gear, 4K at 70mph. This is a water cooled bus. A suby is not a great fit for the older bus. I think this would make a great conversion. With the lower HP motor, these vans had trouble getting out of their own way. Maybe the 6 is overkill but I am sure you will love it. I hope you keep posting your conversion process here!
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| porschetub |
Mar 16 2023, 05:44 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,064 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None |
I have a 91 Westy with a Suby 2.5. The power is great but not too much. Gearing is great in the city but I need a higher gear, 4K at 70mph. This is a water cooled bus. A suby is not a great fit for the older bus. I think this would make a great conversion. With the lower HP motor, these vans had trouble getting out of their own way. Maybe the 6 is overkill but I am sure you will love it. I hope you keep posting your conversion process here! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) one thing I think about is gearing of what ever porsche trans used due to the weight difference ,wonder if porsche addressed that in any way ?. |
| VaccaRabite |
Mar 17 2023, 07:24 AM
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En Garde! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 13,845 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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I have a 91 Westy with a Suby 2.5. The power is great but not too much. Gearing is great in the city but I need a higher gear, 4K at 70mph. This is a water cooled bus. A suby is not a great fit for the older bus. I think this would make a great conversion. With the lower HP motor, these vans had trouble getting out of their own way. Maybe the 6 is overkill but I am sure you will love it. I hope you keep posting your conversion process here! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) one thing I think about is gearing of what ever porsche trans used due to the weight difference ,wonder if porsche addressed that in any way ?. Yes, the plan is to document everything here. The bus transmission is geared a bit lower to make the smaller T4 engine viable, which means its winding out the /6. I may need or want to slightly re-gear the 915 - something I want to talk to Mike about when I get closer to that stage of the build. Probably gearing in-between the Bus box and the stock gearing for the 911. My idea for this bus is NOT to have it be fast. But to have it be able to climb hills without crawling into 3rd or 2nd, and be able to pull a small trailer or pull the 914 or dune bug. A friend of mine with a T4 powered Westy uses his this way, so I should have no issues with the /6. The /6 should also give me the option of adding AC, and will have a larger alternator so I'll be able to run more STUFF - like maybe seat heaters and a nicer sound system. Speed wise, I intend to keep it about 70 - and maybe set s speed limiter since I have a currently 14 year old boy who may end up driving it from time to time when its done. Zach |
VaccaRabite Put a 2.7 6 into a 72 Bay Window Bus? Nov 3 2022, 12:31 PM
willieg Put a Subie in the bus. https://www.buslab.com/
... Nov 3 2022, 12:38 PM
bdstone914 I know a guy that but a 3.2 in a bus with Porsche ... Nov 3 2022, 12:46 PM
GregAmy There's a couple of Type 2s with Porsche /6 in... Nov 3 2022, 12:46 PM
kerensky Horrible idea, you need to toss it all out. Dispo... Nov 3 2022, 12:58 PM
Cairo94507 @VaccaRabite - That engine would go much better ... Nov 3 2022, 02:30 PM
kerensky
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?s... Nov 3 2022, 02:35 PM
porschetub
[b]@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?... Nov 3 2022, 03:09 PM
porschetub
So, Lets say you had a 2.7L 6 with complete and i... Nov 3 2022, 02:32 PM
Bullethead By all means, do it! Here's a single cab b... Nov 3 2022, 02:34 PM
ClayPerrine Use a complete 944 turbo rear suspension. It will... Nov 3 2022, 03:35 PM
GregAmy
Use a complete 944 turbo rear suspension. It wil... Nov 3 2022, 04:07 PM
JamesM Ah! So you are the one that bought that motor... Nov 3 2022, 05:11 PM
VaccaRabite
Ah! So you are the one that bought that moto... Nov 7 2022, 10:30 AM
JamesM
Ah! So you are the one that bought that mot... Nov 11 2022, 05:22 PM
mepstein Over the years, I’ve seen threads in the samba a... Nov 3 2022, 05:20 PM
Steve There was a nice bus with a 3.2 at a bug show for ... Nov 3 2022, 05:46 PM
r_towle https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=59j-a86YU9M Nov 3 2022, 07:37 PM
r_towle I really wish Zach lived much closer to me.
We wou... Nov 3 2022, 07:37 PM
VaccaRabite
I really wish Zach lived much closer to me.
We wo... Nov 7 2022, 10:28 AM
jhynesrockmtn I seem to recall John Walker had a bus he stuffed ... Nov 3 2022, 07:44 PM
sixnotfour
I seem to recall John Walker had a bus he stuffed... Nov 4 2022, 02:46 AM
JmuRiz I have no advice, other than it will be super cool... Nov 4 2022, 07:35 AM
VaccaRabite
I have no advice, other than it will be super coo... Nov 7 2022, 10:32 AM
Root_Werks
I have no advice, other than it will be super co... Mar 16 2023, 09:50 AM
ClayPerrine Now if you were really cool, hip and happening, yo... Nov 4 2022, 01:23 PM
kerensky
Now if you were really cool, hip and happening, y... Nov 4 2022, 01:32 PM
r_towle
Now if you were really cool, hip and happening, y... Nov 4 2022, 05:19 PM
nditiz1 It's almost like the newer westy's.
In th... Nov 4 2022, 04:01 PM
mb911 Zach,
I think it would be really cool. I have not... Nov 5 2022, 08:26 AM
JmuRiz http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/media... Nov 7 2022, 11:23 AM
GregAmy Ever heard of the Porsche T3 B32? Me neither. Seve... Nov 11 2022, 04:00 PM
JamesM
Ever heard of the Porsche T3 B32? Me neither. Sev... Nov 11 2022, 05:05 PM
r_towle Yah, like Zach….I bought a 3.0 liter with no des... Nov 11 2022, 07:01 PM
blabla914 If I hit the power ball B32 replica is on the shor... Nov 11 2022, 08:29 PM
JmuRiz
If I hit the power ball B32 replica is on the sho... Nov 12 2022, 08:00 PM
Maltese Falcon @mepstein Found an MSDS Vanagon ('80-92) 3.2L... Nov 12 2022, 12:28 PM
Maltese Falcon Let's go for a ride in the dirt...in the dry-b... Nov 12 2022, 12:34 PM
Maltese Falcon Another pic Nov 12 2022, 05:36 PM
Maltese Falcon Under the bonnet :D
Nov 12 2022, 05:41 PM
erwan914 my BUS t2B Mar 16 2023, 02:17 AM
VaccaRabite @erwan914
WE NEED TO TALK!
Looks like yours... Mar 16 2023, 05:43 AM
erwan914 yes
gearbox 915 LSD Mar 16 2023, 06:43 AM
RARE 6 I have memories of the late Bill Randle, ex Porsch... Mar 16 2023, 10:10 AM
914Toy
I have memories of the late Bill Randle, ex Porsc... Mar 16 2023, 10:14 AM
gandalf_025 There was a guy at the shop i hung out at that had... Mar 16 2023, 11:19 AM
ClayPerrine
But the craziest one was an early Corvair that ... Mar 16 2023, 12:09 PM
fixer34
But the craziest one was an early Corvair that... Mar 16 2023, 01:10 PM
ClayPerrine
[quote name='ClayPerrine' post='3065519' date='Ma... Mar 17 2023, 06:57 AM
gandalf_025 There were a couple of companies that had kits to ... Mar 16 2023, 01:23 PM
Maltese Falcon
I have a 91 Westy with a Suby 2.5. The power is g... Mar 17 2023, 09:46 PM
Dr Evil Dude, after having my big Corvair powered 74 http:... Mar 20 2023, 11:28 AM
VaccaRabite
Id recommend going with the 091 VW box, and regea... Mar 20 2023, 12:49 PM
euro911 If I sell my wife's 2014 Subaru Outback, I mig... Mar 20 2023, 04:24 PM
smveril There is a guy in Nebraska that bought a wrecked 9... Mar 20 2023, 05:36 PM
anderssj Food for thought :idea:
This was at Nord ... Mar 21 2023, 08:08 AM
anderssj And some older pictures from Richmond VA:
Mar 21 2023, 08:15 AM
Maltese Falcon @anderssj that's my old buddy Dieter Wanderer... Mar 21 2023, 08:52 AM
Maltese Falcon "VW Trends" magazine, Dec. 1991; Dieter ... Mar 22 2023, 10:18 PM
Maltese Falcon The 1968 single-cab was formerly used as a Shoppin... Mar 22 2023, 10:21 PM
Maltese Falcon Few more from the article, pic 6B shows a very sho... Mar 22 2023, 10:26 PM
Maltese Falcon Last of the article pics...911 gauges on a custom ... Mar 22 2023, 10:29 PM
anderssj Wow, small world…and nice work on that truck. No... May 10 2023, 07:01 PM
Maltese Falcon
Wow, small world…and nice work on that truck. N... May 10 2023, 07:41 PM
VaccaRabite I did some measurements the other day.
The engine... May 10 2023, 07:59 PM
type2man
I did some measurements the other day.
The engin... May 10 2023, 10:53 PM
VaccaRabite
Did you ever get your 914 going? I remember it w... May 11 2023, 07:45 AM
Dr Evil You know, I still have my CIS set up for my engine... May 10 2023, 08:06 PM
Dr Evil CIS development for in bus use, can be adapted to ... May 10 2023, 08:15 PM
Maltese Falcon @VaccaRabite
Zach...I never put a CIS engine into... May 10 2023, 11:42 PM
Maltese Falcon '85 Doka' with a sb 350" Chevy + g50 ... May 11 2023, 08:13 AM
JmuRiz Zach, any interest in SC grind Elgin 3 bearing cam... Jul 25 2023, 07:41 PM
flat4guy A few years ago at the VW Porsche treffen in Calif... Jul 25 2023, 07:55 PM
flat4guy RE: Put a 2.7 6 into a 72 Bay Window Bus? Jul 25 2023, 08:06 PM
Chris H. This is an interesting syncro/996 Carrera 4 projec... Jul 25 2023, 09:34 PM![]() ![]() |
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