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emerygt350
post Mar 17 2023, 07:38 PM
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I just popped on my newly remastered rear brake calipers from PMB and was wondering if there was a point to the lower bleeder? I only ever bothered with the top bleeder before but now that it's bone dry I was wondering if that might be why the second bleeder exists? I will be bleeding the brakes tomorrow morning.
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post Mar 19 2023, 04:15 AM
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Ferrari 308 uses the same rear calipers. I think the double bleed screw is to accommodate use on it.
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post Mar 19 2023, 06:52 AM
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QUOTE(Van914 @ Mar 19 2023, 05:15 AM) *

Ferrari 308 uses the same rear calipers. I think the double bleed screw is to accommodate use on it.


So I’ve never actually looked at the Ferrari application. It seems they do use the caliper with the handbrake lever on the top instead of on the bottom like the 914. So that would need the bleed screw flipped 180.

The rear casting also appears to be the same at a glance but I certainly don’t have parts in hand.

I believe the Ferrari really used the /6 GT vented rear caliper. But again I have always been under the impression that the 914/6 back casting was common between the 914/4 and the 914/6 and that both the Ferrari 308 & 914/6 GT just added a spacer between the inner and outer casting to accommodate the wider vented rotor. Yes, the /6 has a larger 38 mm piston and a the stock rotor OD is a couple mm larger and a mm or so thicker. This would be an easily accommodated within a common casting.

To me that seems like more rationale why ATE might have done generic machining like bleed screws early on before the inner casting final use was known and more of the application specific machine work was done.

Would be interesting to have both applications in hand. I think PMB might have insight but suspect this topic has been beat to death in the past though the Google magic isn’t finding a thread with a 100% definitive answer on the dual bleed screws origin. Here’s a video from rebuild of Ian’s 308 calipers by PMB.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUvYRPe2bDw
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emerygt350   The two bleeders   Mar 17 2023, 07:38 PM
StarBear   Good question. Curious, too. Dual bleeders on late...   Mar 17 2023, 08:02 PM
Superhawk996   Dual bleeders facilitate the part being used on ei...   Mar 17 2023, 10:32 PM
iankarr   On one car I had a harder time than usual getting ...   Mar 17 2023, 11:59 PM
davep   Dual bleed nipples of the 914 rear have nothing to...   Mar 18 2023, 07:21 AM
930cabman   Dual bleed nipples of the 914 rear have nothing t...   Mar 18 2023, 08:11 AM
Superhawk996   Dual bleed nipples of the 914 rear have nothing t...   Mar 18 2023, 10:49 AM
davep   The casting is not handed until the machining ope...   Mar 18 2023, 07:10 PM
technicalninja   Dual bleed nipples of the 914 rear have nothing t...   Mar 18 2023, 07:57 AM
technicalninja   Disagree. You have to look at this from a manufa...   Mar 18 2023, 11:25 AM
emerygt350   Shoot, wish I had read Dave's comment earlier....   Mar 18 2023, 01:55 PM
Superhawk996   I think the one thing we can agree on is that thes...   Mar 18 2023, 08:04 PM
Van914   Ferrari 308 uses the same rear calipers. I think t...   Mar 19 2023, 04:15 AM
Superhawk996   Ferrari 308 uses the same rear calipers. I think ...   Mar 19 2023, 06:52 AM
davep   Ferrari 308 uses the same rear calipers. I think ...   Mar 19 2023, 08:04 AM
Krieger   Here are my 308 calipers. I had a machinist add th...   Mar 19 2023, 11:24 AM
Superhawk996   Here are my 308 calipers. I had a machinist add t...   Mar 19 2023, 12:11 PM
Krieger   Here are my 308 calipers. I had a machinist add ...   Mar 19 2023, 06:41 PM
zoomCat   Here are my 308 calipers. I had a machinist add t...   Mar 19 2023, 12:56 PM
Superhawk996   Nope - I’m wrong on a casting common to all thre...   Mar 19 2023, 12:34 PM
PatMc   Nope - I’m wrong on a casting common to all thr...   Mar 20 2023, 08:48 AM
Krieger   And some casting variations with mine. @Superhawk...   Mar 19 2023, 06:58 PM
Superhawk996   Thank you for the alternate views. Nice score fo...   Mar 19 2023, 09:43 PM


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