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|  What went wrong?, it was running great and then not at all | 
| Type 47 |  Mar 15 2023, 03:59 PM 
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| Senior Member    Group: Members Posts: 792 Joined: 1-June 10 From: St. Louis, MO Member No.: 11,790 Region Association: None    | so we put the original 62k engine back in that had not had the distributor removed.  Adjusted the valves (again after we put about 10 miles on it) we rebuilt the Webbers and it fired up.  We did some timing and tweaking on the carbs. It ran OK but a little shy of perfect. I replaced the wires and it seemed to improve it but idled a little high around 1,200. My son came over to work on it the next day, but I wasn't home. All of a sudden, it won't even run. we swapped distributers (both 009's) with the parts car, then swapped points (adjusted to 0.016). no improvement. tested spark to all four cylinders. I seems like it's really out of timing but we didn't change it much. (except for the fact that we took the distributor out) my son says we have spark, too much fuel, and not enough air. What do we do next?????  | 
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| Superhawk996 |  Mar 15 2023, 10:22 PM 
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| 914 Guru      Group: Members Posts: 7,497 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch    | What is the static timing set at?  Should be about 5-7 degrees BTDC.  Have you confirmed this? | 
| Dustin914 |  Mar 20 2023, 04:54 PM 
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 Type 47   What went wrong?   Mar 15 2023, 03:59 PM
 Type 47   What went wrong?   Mar 15 2023, 03:59 PM 
  Superhawk996   
we swapped distributers (both 009's) with t...   Mar 15 2023, 04:15 PM
 Superhawk996   
we swapped distributers (both 009's) with t...   Mar 15 2023, 04:15 PM
 
  Root_Werks   
we swapped distributers (both 009's) with ...   Mar 15 2023, 04:20 PM
 Root_Werks   
we swapped distributers (both 009's) with ...   Mar 15 2023, 04:20 PM

 
  Type 47   
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3065291' date='M...   Mar 15 2023, 04:28 PM
 Type 47   
[quote name='Superhawk996' post='3065291' date='M...   Mar 15 2023, 04:28 PM


 
  Superhawk996   
So, if distributor, points were working properl...   Mar 15 2023, 04:36 PM
 Superhawk996   
So, if distributor, points were working properl...   Mar 15 2023, 04:36 PM
 
  Type 47   
we swapped distributers (both 009's) with ...   Mar 15 2023, 04:21 PM
 Type 47   
we swapped distributers (both 009's) with ...   Mar 15 2023, 04:21 PM 
  Superhawk996   Using the parts shotgun approach to troubleshoot h...   Mar 15 2023, 04:33 PM
 Superhawk996   Using the parts shotgun approach to troubleshoot h...   Mar 15 2023, 04:33 PM
 
  Type 47   
Do you see the accelerator pump shooting fuel?  ...   Mar 15 2023, 05:54 PM
 Type 47   
Do you see the accelerator pump shooting fuel?  ...   Mar 15 2023, 05:54 PM 
  930cabman   Is there compression?   Mar 15 2023, 04:38 PM
 930cabman   Is there compression?   Mar 15 2023, 04:38 PM
 
  Superhawk996   
Is there compression?
 :D 
I ASSUMED . . . Good...   Mar 15 2023, 04:41 PM
 Superhawk996   
Is there compression?
 :D 
I ASSUMED . . . Good...   Mar 15 2023, 04:41 PM 
  nditiz1   I would put the old distro back in and make sure t...   Mar 15 2023, 05:02 PM
 nditiz1   I would put the old distro back in and make sure t...   Mar 15 2023, 05:02 PM
 
  Superhawk996   
I would put the old distro back in and make sure ...   Mar 15 2023, 05:17 PM
 Superhawk996   
I would put the old distro back in and make sure ...   Mar 15 2023, 05:17 PM
 
  Type 47   
I would put the old distro back in and make sure ...   Mar 15 2023, 05:56 PM
 Type 47   
I would put the old distro back in and make sure ...   Mar 15 2023, 05:56 PM 
  930cabman   Is a cam lobe wiped out? Known history is inconclu...   Mar 15 2023, 05:02 PM
 930cabman   Is a cam lobe wiped out? Known history is inconclu...   Mar 15 2023, 05:02 PM 
  Aerostatwv   Sounds like a bad condenser to me.   Mar 15 2023, 05:21 PM
 Aerostatwv   Sounds like a bad condenser to me.   Mar 15 2023, 05:21 PM
 
  Superhawk996   
Sounds like a bad condenser to me.
If it’s spa...   Mar 15 2023, 05:32 PM
 Superhawk996   
Sounds like a bad condenser to me.
If it’s spa...   Mar 15 2023, 05:32 PM
 
  Rand   
Sounds like a bad condenser to me.
I'd be in...   Mar 21 2023, 07:04 PM
 Rand   
Sounds like a bad condenser to me.
I'd be in...   Mar 21 2023, 07:04 PM 
  nditiz1   If the swapped in distro is a known working entity...   Mar 15 2023, 05:54 PM
 nditiz1   If the swapped in distro is a known working entity...   Mar 15 2023, 05:54 PM
 
  Type 47   
If the swapped in distro is a known working entit...   Mar 15 2023, 05:57 PM
 Type 47   
If the swapped in distro is a known working entit...   Mar 15 2023, 05:57 PM

 
  Superhawk996   
If the swapped in distro is a known working enti...   Mar 15 2023, 06:12 PM
 Superhawk996   
If the swapped in distro is a known working enti...   Mar 15 2023, 06:12 PM


 
  Type 47   
[quote name='Type 47' post='3065346' date='Mar 15...   Mar 15 2023, 09:49 PM
 Type 47   
[quote name='Type 47' post='3065346' date='Mar 15...   Mar 15 2023, 09:49 PM 
  bossboy302   
Verify actual TDC but popping off 1/2 valve cover...   Mar 15 2023, 06:50 PM
 bossboy302   
Verify actual TDC but popping off 1/2 valve cover...   Mar 15 2023, 06:50 PM
 
  Type 47   
Verify actual TDC but popping off 1/2 valve cove...   Mar 15 2023, 09:47 PM
 Type 47   
Verify actual TDC but popping off 1/2 valve cove...   Mar 15 2023, 09:47 PM

 
  ChrisFoley   
thanks, we understand.  Can't tell you how m...   Mar 20 2023, 04:18 AM
 ChrisFoley   
thanks, we understand.  Can't tell you how m...   Mar 20 2023, 04:18 AM


 
  bossboy302   
thanks, we understand.  Can't tell you how ...   Mar 20 2023, 12:07 PM
 bossboy302   
thanks, we understand.  Can't tell you how ...   Mar 20 2023, 12:07 PM 
  Gatornapper   Best thing I've ever seen on setting static ti...   Mar 15 2023, 07:27 PM
 Gatornapper   Best thing I've ever seen on setting static ti...   Mar 15 2023, 07:27 PM 
  brant   no one mentioned the 009 
it won't be your lac...   Mar 16 2023, 10:58 AM
 brant   no one mentioned the 009 
it won't be your lac...   Mar 16 2023, 10:58 AM 
  Root_Werks   Make sure to post the solution when you do figure ...   Mar 17 2023, 02:11 PM
 Root_Werks   Make sure to post the solution when you do figure ...   Mar 17 2023, 02:11 PM
 
  Type 47   
Make sure to post the solution when you do figure...   Mar 18 2023, 07:03 PM
 Type 47   
Make sure to post the solution when you do figure...   Mar 18 2023, 07:03 PM

 
  ChrisFoley    
not sure why plug wire #1 is so tight?
Switch...   Mar 19 2023, 03:27 AM
 ChrisFoley    
not sure why plug wire #1 is so tight?
Switch...   Mar 19 2023, 03:27 AM

 
  930cabman   
[quote name='Root_Werks' post='3065796' date='Mar...   Mar 19 2023, 05:46 AM
 930cabman   
[quote name='Root_Werks' post='3065796' date='Mar...   Mar 19 2023, 05:46 AM


 
  Type 47   
[quote name='Root_Werks' post='3065796' date='Ma...   Mar 19 2023, 04:22 PM
 Type 47   
[quote name='Root_Werks' post='3065796' date='Ma...   Mar 19 2023, 04:22 PM 
  lolkema   I would start by making 100% sure the distributor ...   Mar 18 2023, 06:17 PM
 lolkema   I would start by making 100% sure the distributor ...   Mar 18 2023, 06:17 PM 
  second wind   I have to share....my '73 2.0 had "spark...   Mar 19 2023, 01:26 AM
 second wind   I have to share....my '73 2.0 had "spark...   Mar 19 2023, 01:26 AM 
  nditiz1   This seems like a very drastic approach.  I don...   Mar 19 2023, 06:14 PM
 nditiz1   This seems like a very drastic approach.  I don...   Mar 19 2023, 06:14 PM
 
  Type 47   
This seems like a very drastic approach.  I don...   Mar 20 2023, 12:48 PM
 Type 47   
This seems like a very drastic approach.  I don...   Mar 20 2023, 12:48 PM

 
  Superhawk996   
. . .  is like "what's a carburetor?...   Mar 20 2023, 12:59 PM
 Superhawk996   
. . .  is like "what's a carburetor?...   Mar 20 2023, 12:59 PM 
  Dave_Darling   That distributor does not look to be in the right ...   Mar 19 2023, 07:51 PM
 Dave_Darling   That distributor does not look to be in the right ...   Mar 19 2023, 07:51 PM 
  bobboinski   Distributor cap looks to be wired wrong.
Or maybe ...   Mar 19 2023, 09:02 PM
 bobboinski   Distributor cap looks to be wired wrong.
Or maybe ...   Mar 19 2023, 09:02 PM 
  VaccaRabite   Your dizzy is all sorts of awkward in that picture...   Mar 19 2023, 09:13 PM
 VaccaRabite   Your dizzy is all sorts of awkward in that picture...   Mar 19 2023, 09:13 PM 
  930cabman   Back in the day it was difficult to find (and keep...   Mar 20 2023, 04:30 PM
 930cabman   Back in the day it was difficult to find (and keep...   Mar 20 2023, 04:30 PM 
  ChrisFoley   with a timing light while the engine is running.   Mar 20 2023, 06:35 PM
 ChrisFoley   with a timing light while the engine is running.   Mar 20 2023, 06:35 PM
 
  Superhawk996   
with a timing light while the engine is running.
...   Mar 20 2023, 07:24 PM
 Superhawk996   
with a timing light while the engine is running.
...   Mar 20 2023, 07:24 PM
 
  Type 47   
with a timing light while the engine is running.
...   Mar 20 2023, 08:23 PM
 Type 47   
with a timing light while the engine is running.
...   Mar 20 2023, 08:23 PM

 
  Superhawk996   
with a timing light while the engine is running....   Mar 20 2023, 08:29 PM
 Superhawk996   
with a timing light while the engine is running....   Mar 20 2023, 08:29 PM 
  Superhawk996   Now that the carbs have been removed - you’re go...   Mar 20 2023, 08:35 PM
 Superhawk996   Now that the carbs have been removed - you’re go...   Mar 20 2023, 08:35 PM
 
  Type 47   
Now that the carbs have been removed - you’re g...   Mar 20 2023, 09:18 PM
 Type 47   
Now that the carbs have been removed - you’re g...   Mar 20 2023, 09:18 PM 
  Type 47   Could a valve be stuck and causing chaos?  then no...   Mar 20 2023, 09:40 PM
 Type 47   Could a valve be stuck and causing chaos?  then no...   Mar 20 2023, 09:40 PM
 
  Superhawk996   
Could a valve be stuck and causing chaos?  then n...   Mar 20 2023, 09:55 PM
 Superhawk996   
Could a valve be stuck and causing chaos?  then n...   Mar 20 2023, 09:55 PM 
  Dave_Darling   Distributor.  Check that distributor.  Do not f**k...   Mar 20 2023, 09:58 PM
 Dave_Darling   Distributor.  Check that distributor.  Do not f**k...   Mar 20 2023, 09:58 PM
 
  Superhawk996   
Distributor.  Check that distributor.  Do not f**...   Mar 20 2023, 10:04 PM
 Superhawk996   
Distributor.  Check that distributor.  Do not f**...   Mar 20 2023, 10:04 PM
 
  Type 47   
Distributor.  Check that distributor.  Do not f**...   Mar 21 2023, 09:15 AM
 Type 47   
Distributor.  Check that distributor.  Do not f**...   Mar 21 2023, 09:15 AM 
  Superhawk996   Sorry - not trying to over simplify 
However tuni...   Mar 20 2023, 10:02 PM
 Superhawk996   Sorry - not trying to over simplify 
However tuni...   Mar 20 2023, 10:02 PM
 
  Type 47   
Sorry - not trying to over simplify 
However tun...   Mar 21 2023, 09:26 AM
 Type 47   
Sorry - not trying to over simplify 
However tun...   Mar 21 2023, 09:26 AM 
  brant   Taking the carbs off will effect the linkage
Havi...   Mar 21 2023, 07:48 AM
 brant   Taking the carbs off will effect the linkage
Havi...   Mar 21 2023, 07:48 AM
 
  Type 47   
Taking the carbs off will effect the linkage
Hav...   Mar 21 2023, 09:16 AM
 Type 47   
Taking the carbs off will effect the linkage
Hav...   Mar 21 2023, 09:16 AM

 
  brant   
Taking the carbs off will effect the linkage
Ha...   Mar 21 2023, 09:58 AM
 brant   
Taking the carbs off will effect the linkage
Ha...   Mar 21 2023, 09:58 AM 
  nditiz1   If the car pops stutters backfires at IDLE here ar...   Mar 21 2023, 09:29 AM
 nditiz1   If the car pops stutters backfires at IDLE here ar...   Mar 21 2023, 09:29 AM
 
  Type 47   
Idle circuit is dirty - are the carbs clean?  Ha...   Mar 21 2023, 02:56 PM
 Type 47   
Idle circuit is dirty - are the carbs clean?  Ha...   Mar 21 2023, 02:56 PM 
  technicalninja   
with a timing light while the engine is running....   Mar 21 2023, 10:12 AM
 technicalninja   
with a timing light while the engine is running....   Mar 21 2023, 10:12 AM 
  technicalninja   
Timing could be off, but I believe you ran it u...   Mar 21 2023, 10:17 AM
 technicalninja   
Timing could be off, but I believe you ran it u...   Mar 21 2023, 10:17 AM 
  nditiz1   Yes please retract your post  :D
Just so we are c...   Mar 21 2023, 10:18 AM
 nditiz1   Yes please retract your post  :D
Just so we are c...   Mar 21 2023, 10:18 AM 
  technicalninja   Yep, I'm sorry I may have added to the confusi...   Mar 21 2023, 10:39 AM
 technicalninja   Yep, I'm sorry I may have added to the confusi...   Mar 21 2023, 10:39 AM
 
  Superhawk996   
How did Porsche expect technicians to be able to ...   Mar 21 2023, 11:16 AM
 Superhawk996   
How did Porsche expect technicians to be able to ...   Mar 21 2023, 11:16 AM

 
  Type 47   
[quote name='technicalninja' post='3066759' date=...   Mar 21 2023, 02:11 PM
 Type 47   
[quote name='technicalninja' post='3066759' date=...   Mar 21 2023, 02:11 PM 
  ClayPerrine   Just so you know, the 009 is a terrible distributo...   Mar 21 2023, 10:48 AM
 ClayPerrine   Just so you know, the 009 is a terrible distributo...   Mar 21 2023, 10:48 AM
 
  Type 47   
Just so you know, the 009 is a terrible distribut...   Mar 21 2023, 03:00 PM
 Type 47   
Just so you know, the 009 is a terrible distribut...   Mar 21 2023, 03:00 PM 
  nditiz1   009 should have no problem getting to the base.  I...   Mar 21 2023, 11:28 AM
 nditiz1   009 should have no problem getting to the base.  I...   Mar 21 2023, 11:28 AM 
  technicalninja   
[quote name='technicalninja' post='3066759' date=...   Mar 21 2023, 12:08 PM
 technicalninja   
[quote name='technicalninja' post='3066759' date=...   Mar 21 2023, 12:08 PM 
  cgnj   Hi,
You never said what fixed your no start proble...   Mar 21 2023, 01:29 PM
 cgnj   Hi,
You never said what fixed your no start proble...   Mar 21 2023, 01:29 PM
 
  Type 47   
Hi,
You never said what fixed your no start probl...   Mar 21 2023, 01:53 PM
 Type 47   
Hi,
You never said what fixed your no start probl...   Mar 21 2023, 01:53 PM 
  technicalninja   Just looked at the link provided for syncing carbs...   Mar 21 2023, 02:26 PM
 technicalninja   Just looked at the link provided for syncing carbs...   Mar 21 2023, 02:26 PM 
  nditiz1   There are definitely different levels of cleaning....   Mar 21 2023, 06:37 PM
 nditiz1   There are definitely different levels of cleaning....   Mar 21 2023, 06:37 PM
 
  Type 47   
There are definitely different levels of cleaning...   Mar 21 2023, 08:13 PM
 Type 47   
There are definitely different levels of cleaning...   Mar 21 2023, 08:13 PM 
  ChrisFoley   That red line on your impeller is the 27 degree ma...   Mar 22 2023, 05:23 AM
 ChrisFoley   That red line on your impeller is the 27 degree ma...   Mar 22 2023, 05:23 AM 
  bossboy302   TYPE 47: you never have explained how you got from...   Mar 22 2023, 11:40 AM
 bossboy302   TYPE 47: you never have explained how you got from...   Mar 22 2023, 11:40 AM
 
  Type 47   
TYPE 47: you never have explained how you got fro...   Mar 22 2023, 02:48 PM
 Type 47   
TYPE 47: you never have explained how you got fro...   Mar 22 2023, 02:48 PM|   | 
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