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MartyYeoman
post Apr 15 2023, 10:51 PM
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I just saw this both on Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace.
Maybe Rich is just fishing.



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post Apr 16 2023, 01:35 PM
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Here’s another way to look at it.

It’s not uncommon for a small business to sell for a price of 5x its annual bottom line revenue. Yah - I know this is CA and the property value may skew it a little.

So to go for 5x profits, that means the business needs to pull down $2m a year in profit after all else is paid including mechanics, a shop manager, property tax (not insignificant), utilities, insurance, building maintenance, and other miscellaneous overhead.

Now the question becomes what does the gross revenue need to be to end up with $2m profit? I honestly don’t know what that number needs to be in CA to net $2m in annual profit. Let’s be modest and say $4M to make the math easy.

So we have $4m that needs to be covered by 8 bays. That’s $500,000 gross revenue per bay.

Not implausible, but it sure isn’t going to happen by only working on vintage air cooled stuff, I suspect there just isn’t that much demand. Even in the Bay Area. So that means the shop has to do way more than just air cooled work.

Now that hoard of vintage air cooled parts is looking like even more of a boat anchor.

My math is fast and loose but you see where this is going.

I wish I could buy it and somehow make a go of it, but my napkin math $ business case doesn’t look too appealing.

When it sells, I’ll bet it sells for the value of the property alone which still won’t be cheap but I suspect it also won’t be $11.5M. Unless I hit the Lotto and start a 914 charity program.
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MartyYeoman   HPH for sale?   Apr 15 2023, 10:51 PM
914Sixer   Rich has had it for sale for some time now.   Apr 16 2023, 06:13 AM
ConeDodger   Rich has had it for sale for some time now. Ri...   Apr 16 2023, 07:16 AM
Geezer914   Group buy??? :woohoo:   Apr 16 2023, 07:30 AM
Jett   11MM. Lol   Apr 16 2023, 08:19 AM
SirAndy   11MM. Lol Most of that is for the building and p...   Apr 16 2023, 09:17 AM
Superhawk996   11MM. Lol Most of that is for the building and ...   Apr 16 2023, 11:28 AM
mepstein   [quote name='SirAndy' post='3071820' date='Apr 16...   Apr 16 2023, 11:34 AM
Jett   11MM. Lol Most of that is for the building and ...   Apr 16 2023, 11:30 AM
JeffBowlsby   We wish you well, Rich. You have served an import...   Apr 16 2023, 08:26 AM
Lsr911   Looking at the pictures of the hoods, deck lids an...   Apr 16 2023, 08:47 AM
mepstein   The problem is that the cost of storage is more th...   Apr 16 2023, 08:55 AM
Jamie   What a treasure trove, hope it can be salvaged...   Apr 16 2023, 10:11 AM
windforfun   I'm afraid that Rich has a bit of a white elep...   Apr 16 2023, 10:52 AM
JeffBowlsby   The land/building should be separated from the P-c...   Apr 16 2023, 12:29 PM
Maltese Falcon   The land/building should be separated from the P-...   Apr 16 2023, 03:02 PM
vitamin914   The land/building should be separated from the P-...   Apr 17 2023, 07:07 AM
NARP74   It hurts me to know that he has parts I need but w...   Apr 16 2023, 12:47 PM
930cabman   Hire an auction house to clear the contents? Th...   Apr 16 2023, 01:05 PM
rhodyguy   I was there when we met in Campbell. I did a start...   Apr 16 2023, 01:19 PM
Superhawk996   How much value is in 50 or a hundred type 4 fans t...   Apr 16 2023, 01:20 PM
Superhawk996   Here’s another way to look at it. It’s not ...   Apr 16 2023, 01:35 PM
mepstein   Parts wise, you have to pay about 1/3 of retail to...   Apr 16 2023, 02:03 PM
rhodyguy   I doubt any one would buy and try to make this biz...   Apr 16 2023, 03:16 PM
930cabman   There are several items to consider: the value o...   Apr 16 2023, 03:54 PM
rhodyguy   ‘Redwood City land values’ Gulp. Eye opening. ...   Apr 16 2023, 05:09 PM
jhynesrockmtn   Very expensive area. I have a buddy in Menlo Park...   Apr 17 2023, 07:58 AM
dr914@autoatlanta.com   It would take FOREVER to sell those used parts and...   Apr 17 2023, 08:27 AM
windforfun   It would take FOREVER to sell those used parts an...   Apr 17 2023, 06:34 PM


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