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> Clutch pedal travel excessive
peteinjp
post Apr 10 2023, 06:53 AM
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Not wanting to put any undue pressure on the TOB I pulled the cable end as far forward as i could while pushing the clutch lever as far back and adjusted the cable with no free play. Tube is good, cable, pressure plate, flywheel etc all have about 30,000kms. Pedal stop is low and yet I have to push the pedal all the way to the floor to keep from grinding in 1st and reverse. I can not pull the pedal back at all as described in the factory manual. It works but barely- the travel is too far even with the cable adjusted with slight pressure on the shift fork lever.

It seems to me there should always be just the slightest play in the cable- no??


Any thoughts?

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post May 3 2023, 08:44 PM
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QUOTE(gereed75 @ May 3 2023, 11:49 PM) *

great work and a PITA for sure, Bummer about the ring gear starter issue, Two steps forward...... lots of work I know but looks like you will get to the bottom of it!!

that is one beautiful work place, especially in Japan. Beautiful building and set up. I think I can appreciate the effort that that would take to put into place. Where are you?? I lived in Atsugi for 3 years.

Oh yes, that is also one crazy nice car too - best seats ever, coolest motor ever, great color, just over the top nice.



Thanks for the compliments. I love my garage. It's very unusual as its built in an old house. I can fit 2 cars in for work at a time- barely but it all works out.

I'm in Toyama. I run a small glass studio here. The local roads are unbelievable with a mix of tight stuff (914) and some spots where I can stretch my legs (964.) Endless and in the winter out comes the old land cruiser for the snow.

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The car is very nice- but has had more issues that I would have hoped for- this being on example. I'll be pulling it all apart in the next year or 2 for paint and sealing- once I have the suspension done on the 964.

Anyway- So yes the PP does have some small (and I think minor) cracking on the surface. Obviously the flywheel needs to be replaced. So- I'm leaning towards trying a lighter unit.....

Maybe this:

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Wasn't really thinking of replacing all this stuff but the starter issue has pushed the point. I'm open to recommendations in terms of components.

What is a Bosch 4" starter?
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post May 3 2023, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(peteinjp @ May 3 2023, 06:44 PM) *


The car is very nice- but has had more issues that I would have hoped for- this being on example.



Welcome to 914 ownership! I have had many 914s for near 25 years now and in that time have learned that if I haven't replaced a part already myself I can almost always expect that there will be some issue with it.


QUOTE(peteinjp @ May 3 2023, 06:44 PM) *

I'll be pulling it all apart in the next year or 2 for paint and sealing- once I have the suspension done on the 964.


Unless you want to know the car is perfect when you are done you may want to rethink that plan. If you decide to blast it to bare metal before repainting be prepared to find a lot more surprises.

Sometimes ignorance is bliss

If it looks nice as it is currently it may be worth it just to enjoy it for awhile, once you take the paint off you start down a rabbit hole. An expensive and time consuming rabbit hole.


QUOTE(peteinjp @ May 3 2023, 06:44 PM) *


Anyway- So yes the PP does have some small (and I think minor) cracking on the surface. Obviously the flywheel needs to be replaced. So- I'm leaning towards trying a lighter unit.....



Never driven a lightened setup on a 6 but have one on one of my 4cyl cars and really think the increased rev speed boosts the fun factor. Does require a little more throttle/slipping of the clutch off the line but barely enough to notice and I suspect the larger displacement of a 6 might help with that as well.

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peteinjp   Clutch pedal travel excessive   Apr 10 2023, 06:53 AM
DRPHIL914   Not wanting to put any undue pressure on the TOB ...   Apr 10 2023, 08:28 AM
JamesM   Not wanting to put any undue pressure on the TOB ...   Apr 10 2023, 09:49 AM
rhodyguy   Only 1/R? No problem up and down shifting 2 throug...   Apr 10 2023, 10:33 AM
peteinjp   Thanks guys- Tube in tunnel is clean: I can d...   Apr 10 2023, 07:47 PM
JamesM   That all said- it still does not seem like tha...   Apr 10 2023, 08:51 PM
r_towle   I seem to recall a few “try this” 1) put a 3...   Apr 10 2023, 11:12 PM
peteinjp   I ordered a different clevis but for now I put in ...   Apr 10 2023, 11:42 PM
DRPHIL914   I ordered a different clevis but for now I put in...   Apr 11 2023, 05:36 AM
brubou   Has that tunnel been restored?! it's so cl...   Apr 11 2023, 10:32 AM
930cabman   It sure looks like a clean machine. I have not see...   Apr 11 2023, 11:03 AM
jfort   I agree with the free play and the bushing. Mine w...   Apr 11 2023, 12:17 PM
peteinjp   EDIT- sorry i reread your post and realized you...   Apr 11 2023, 09:10 PM
Mikey914   Shouldn't need to add in much if the flywheel ...   Apr 11 2023, 11:13 PM
technicalninja   Might be a tight pilot bearing if it ONLY grinds g...   Apr 11 2023, 11:34 PM
rhodyguy   A winter stuck in Tacoma? Outdoors? Uncovered? Rig...   Apr 12 2023, 12:12 PM
JamesM   A lot of people seemed to be focused on cable thre...   Apr 12 2023, 12:54 PM
930cabman   It's possible the synchro's at 1 and rever...   Apr 12 2023, 07:39 PM
Dr Evil   The "shim" under the pivot ball is nothi...   Apr 13 2023, 08:23 PM
rgalla9146   I agree about the TOB pivot bushing. Afte...   Apr 14 2023, 06:33 AM
peteinjp   Shouldn't need to add in much if the flywheel...   Apr 14 2023, 06:36 PM
JamesM   Probably not what you want to hear but personally,...   May 3 2023, 11:16 AM
porschetub   Probably not what you want to hear but personally...   May 3 2023, 05:21 PM
peteinjp   Well- as it turns out I was wrong and there the re...   Apr 16 2023, 07:25 AM
SirAndy   Anyway.. Good tips on transmission only removal?? ...   Apr 16 2023, 09:28 AM
peteinjp   Anyway.. Good tips on transmission only removal??...   Apr 16 2023, 07:37 PM
Superhawk996   [quote name='SirAndy' post='3071825' date='Apr 17...   Apr 16 2023, 10:00 PM
r_towle   While you are in there …….   Apr 16 2023, 10:16 PM
Dave_Darling   I've actually found that it is faster to just ...   Apr 16 2023, 11:28 PM
ClayPerrine   I've actually found that it is faster to just...   Apr 17 2023, 06:06 AM
VaccaRabite   I've actually found that it is faster to jus...   Apr 17 2023, 06:29 AM
peteinjp   First off the P.O. had everything engine and axle ...   Apr 17 2023, 05:28 AM
peteinjp   Thanks Clay- sounds like the way to go. Gotta orde...   Apr 17 2023, 06:21 AM
rjames   Thanks Clay- sounds like the way to go. Gotta ord...   Apr 17 2023, 09:44 AM
peteinjp   If I'm going to replace the output seals shoul...   Apr 17 2023, 06:51 AM
peteinjp   Well I found a couple of hours (some nighttime pre...   May 3 2023, 06:31 AM
peteinjp   In looking over the parts at first there were no o...   May 3 2023, 06:40 AM
Superhawk996   Good job getting the trans out - beautiful garage....   May 3 2023, 07:03 AM
peteinjp   The flywheel is supposedly new but I'll check ...   May 3 2023, 07:23 AM
peteinjp   Then I found this:   May 3 2023, 07:32 AM
peteinjp   FWIW HiTorque starter   May 3 2023, 07:34 AM
Superhawk996   Ugh! Starter not fully engaging ring gear tee...   May 3 2023, 07:38 AM
bdstone914   The nylon pivot bushing needs to be in the hole in...   May 3 2023, 08:46 AM
gereed75   great work and a PITA for sure, Bummer about the r...   May 3 2023, 08:49 AM
peteinjp   great work and a PITA for sure, Bummer about the ...   May 3 2023, 08:44 PM
JamesM   The car is very nice- but has had more issues th...   May 3 2023, 09:25 PM
peteinjp   The body has been completely gone through once, an...   May 3 2023, 10:21 PM
peteinjp   Flywheel has a hot spot evident from the front sid...   May 4 2023, 03:59 AM
porschetub   Flywheel has a hot spot evident from the front si...   May 4 2023, 05:35 PM
peteinjp   Oh- the 4 cylinder unit bolts up- that's good ...   May 4 2023, 07:02 PM
porschetub   Oh- the 4 cylinder unit bolts up- that's good...   May 4 2023, 08:56 PM
peteinjp   I thought a bit about the light weight flywheel af...   May 4 2023, 09:25 PM
porschetub   I thought a bit about the light weight flywheel a...   May 5 2023, 03:28 PM
peteinjp   [quote name='peteinjp' post='3075881' date='May 5...   May 7 2023, 09:53 PM
Superhawk996   Mostly what I need to know is if the stock 215mm...   May 7 2023, 10:54 PM
peteinjp   Thanks for digging that up! Big help and inter...   May 7 2023, 11:23 PM
peteinjp   A little update- I finally figure out that the PP ...   May 12 2023, 07:04 AM
Superhawk996   Glad you’re out driving while waiting on parts. ...   May 12 2023, 07:21 AM
peteinjp   Nope- at least I dont think so. I'll have to c...   May 12 2023, 07:37 AM
Superhawk996   :confused: hmm. Will be very interested to see ...   May 12 2023, 07:52 AM
Krieger   Looks like you can file the washer where the clutc...   May 12 2023, 08:23 AM
914werke   assume youve looked at this but thought its worth ...   May 12 2023, 11:23 AM
Dr Evil   That sealing washer looks very thick. If it is too...   May 12 2023, 01:46 PM
peteinjp   Looks like you can file the washer where the clut...   May 12 2023, 06:10 PM
peteinjp   Just an small update- the KEP stuff has arrived so...   Jul 17 2023, 11:48 PM
r_towle   All those parts are way too clean   Jul 18 2023, 12:01 AM
peteinjp   All those parts are way too clean Yep! the...   Jul 18 2023, 12:07 AM


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