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technicalninja
post Dec 9 2023, 02:28 PM
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I've got the beginnings of a performance T4.
I bought a decent 73 2.0 core complete from 914Sixer.
I got a set of 1.8 SSI aftermarket heat exchangers from another member that are also pretty nice.

What I am missing is the bottom tins that go between the heat exchangers and the engine case.

Anytime folks put dedicated headers on a T4 these are left off...

How important are they?

I'm thinking "not much" but I would like insight from others.

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rhodyguy
post Dec 9 2023, 05:59 PM
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What’s the upside to not using them? A few bucks? Losing a few ounces of original weight? New ones are reasonable $. Nice used originals? Dirt cheap.
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post Dec 9 2023, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Dec 9 2023, 05:59 PM) *

What’s the upside to not using them? A few bucks? Losing a few ounces of original weight? New ones are reasonable $. Nice used originals? Dirt cheap.


one of the more amusing aspects of those warm air guides is not something any of us with our fuel injected cars would have need to notice.

but if you were one of the lucky european owners of the plucky little twin carb 1.8 that went in the 74/75 small engine cars you got a standard low pressure mechanical fuel pump - which in a type 4 engine is in the strangest location.

check the photos (from haynes manual).

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would not have given a bus or a 411/412 owner the slightest bit of trouble tucked there.
the warm air guides are sending the hot cooling exhaust towards the other end of the engine.

but i'm betting the euro 1.8s had a fuel vaporisation problem worse than anything the fuel injected cars ever had. cause i reckon those VW and porsche engineers might have had one too many beers when they thought that one up. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

on the other hand in a standard type 4 rear engined car the oil filter basks in the beautiful hot air flow of both the exhausted engine air and the oil cooler. gets a double barrelled dose.

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but honestly if i could get hold of a set of warm air guides i'd probably stick them on just to stop things getting hot around the fuel pump when i'm sitting stuck in traffic because i do think that is a bit of a problem and i have noticed it. but not sure they really do much else.
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technicalninja   Lower heat shield question   Dec 9 2023, 02:28 PM
Geezer914   Check a Haynes manual for diagrams of the engine t...   Dec 9 2023, 02:43 PM
wonkipop   I've got the beginnings of a performance T4. ...   Dec 9 2023, 02:51 PM
914werke   so long as you have good sealing around the engin...   Dec 9 2023, 02:58 PM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' post='3116982' date='Dec 9...   Dec 9 2023, 03:24 PM
rhodyguy   They really stiffen up/help support the heat excha...   Dec 9 2023, 03:36 PM
wonkipop   They really stiffen up/help support the heat exch...   Dec 9 2023, 03:57 PM
87m491   maybe. but the heat exchangers are hung at both...   Dec 11 2023, 04:17 PM
technicalninja   Awesome replies! Already altered my thought p...   Dec 9 2023, 04:11 PM
wonkipop   Awesome replies! Already altered my thought ...   Dec 9 2023, 09:13 PM
87m491   [quote name='wonkipop' date='Dec 9 202...   Dec 10 2023, 08:35 AM
wonkipop   [quote name='wonkipop' date='Dec 9 20...   Dec 11 2023, 03:33 PM
rhodyguy   Don’t sit idling in the drive thru at the burger...   Dec 9 2023, 05:06 PM
930cabman   I don't run them on my 2056, never overheats. ...   Dec 9 2023, 05:52 PM
rhodyguy   What’s the upside to not using them? A few bucks...   Dec 9 2023, 05:59 PM
wonkipop   What’s the upside to not using them? A few buck...   Dec 9 2023, 09:00 PM
rhodyguy   How did 912s become part of the conversation? The ...   Dec 11 2023, 03:41 PM
wonkipop   How did 912s become part of the conversation? The...   Dec 11 2023, 03:49 PM
rhodyguy   I don’t think the exhaust systems have much in c...   Dec 11 2023, 03:56 PM
wonkipop   I don’t think the exhaust systems have much in ...   Dec 11 2023, 04:02 PM
wonkipop   I don’t think the exhaust systems have much in ...   Dec 11 2023, 04:17 PM
914work   Apples to dump trucks! The pictures provided a...   Dec 11 2023, 10:43 PM
VaccaRabite   I've never had them on my car. In 2010 I was ...   Dec 12 2023, 08:54 AM


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