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> Front suspension control arm end bracket removal question for you all here.., Do these come off? How?
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post Dec 26 2023, 11:04 PM
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Hi. Frances and Dan from Tinkergineering here. Do these [see photo] end mounting brackets need to get pressed out, and if so how do I do that? should I need to heat it up? We got the front and rear suspension all removed. I know Ian had talked about the turbo tie rods. Why is this upgrade important/wanted?
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post Dec 27 2023, 02:52 AM
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Bushings are a good example of 'if it ain't broke..." They are not easy and a press is recommended. I'd leave them be and just clean up the metal.

Turbo tie rods are not that much better or I should say the stock rods are not bad. The inner bushing gets worn so if it's sloppy do the change over. Check for slop in the rack too. Also the rubber coupler between the rack and the steering shaft.
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post Dec 27 2023, 08:24 AM
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QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Dec 27 2023, 03:52 AM) *

Bushings are a good example of 'if it ain't broke..." They are not easy and a press is recommended. I'd leave them be and just clean up the metal.

Turbo tie rods are not that much better or I should say the stock rods are not bad. The inner bushing gets worn so if it's sloppy do the change over. Check for slop in the rack too. Also the rubber coupler between the rack and the steering shaft.


The rear bushing is probably the only one needing replacement as it carries most of the vertical load and over time collapses so the torsion bar starts rubbing inside the LCR destroying the protective coating. That leads to failure due to corrosion fatigue cracking.
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post Dec 27 2023, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(barefoot @ Dec 27 2023, 09:24 AM) *

QUOTE(Chris914n6 @ Dec 27 2023, 03:52 AM) *

Bushings are a good example of 'if it ain't broke..." They are not easy and a press is recommended. I'd leave them be and just clean up the metal.

Turbo tie rods are not that much better or I should say the stock rods are not bad. The inner bushing gets worn so if it's sloppy do the change over. Check for slop in the rack too. Also the rubber coupler between the rack and the steering shaft.


The rear bushing is probably the only one needing replacement as it carries most of the vertical load and over time collapses so the torsion bar starts rubbing inside the LCR destroying the protective coating. That leads to failure due to corrosion fatigue cracking.

I don’t agree. The fronts always need replacing, at least on all the 911’s that run through our shop. They are 50 years old. It’s one of those things that you do when you are rehabbing the suspension. Who’s going to blast and repaint the a-arms and not replace the old bushings. When they start to collapse, the torsion bar rubs on the a-arm and causes damage.
On a 50 year old car, you really have to look at every nut, bolt and bushing and plan on rehab and replacement. You don’t want to send Frances down the road in a car that’s not 100%.
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