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| technicalninja |
Jan 7 2024, 08:02 PM
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The title is the question.
I know what to look for with water-cooled stuff. I have no experience with air-cooled stuff yet... What say you? Is there a normal range? A never exceed number? Anyone ever use 4 thermocouples? Was there any noticeable difference (#3 is of concern to me)? Thoughts, tips, any data would be greatly appreciated! |
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| gereed75 |
Jan 8 2024, 07:54 AM
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I also come from an aviation background. What Greg said
EGT is a different way to “monitor” mixture. Pretty much what was available prior to having O2/AFR equipment readily available. If you monitor AFR via O2 sensor then I would say also reading EGT is maybe superfluous but nice to know. I agree with Greg, max is somewhere around 1450 F., depending on a number of variables. Max power is produced somewhere around 100 - 75 rich of peak, corresponding to AFR around 12.5 -13. Best economy (and lowest CHT) is 25 - 50 lean of peak, AFR around 14. Your car’s computer is trying to operate the engine in these ranges depending on throttle position RPM, load, MAP , engine temp, IAT etc etc. the computer adapts fuel flow and timing to produce what it thinks the situation calls for. One other note, the EGT that the probe sees is highly dependent on where it is placed in the header. The temp inside the “flame cone” (my term) varies considerably by location within a band of an inch or so. On another note, I know of no modern engine control system that monitors EGT as a control parameter except maybe in turbo applications. Then it is call Turbine outlet temp. |
technicalninja Max EGT? Jan 7 2024, 08:02 PM
Mikey914 In aircraft it’s around 1450.
Technique is to l... Jan 8 2024, 12:31 AM
technicalninja Is that an air-cooled aircraft?
Seems hot to me, ... Jan 8 2024, 12:59 AM
GregAmy What's your goal with installing EGTs?
I... Jan 8 2024, 07:00 AM
stownsen914 Decades ago, we didn't have reasonably priced ... Jan 8 2024, 12:52 PM
VaccaRabite I don't know that max EGT matter much, so long... Jan 8 2024, 08:54 AM
gereed75 Rich helps keep CHT low. Lean can also produce low... Jan 8 2024, 10:25 AM
technicalninja CHT is first in my air-cooled book. I have never u... Jan 8 2024, 12:36 PM
technicalninja Bingo! That's more like what I was expecti... Jan 8 2024, 01:29 PM
ChrisFoley When I was racing, I was ok with my EGTs going up ... Jan 8 2024, 02:09 PM
ChrisFoley 1200F is super rich and probably giving up a lot o... Jan 8 2024, 02:10 PM
gereed75 No direct experience with Porsche but I agree that... Jan 8 2024, 02:19 PM
ChrisFoley
Chris, were you running 4 sensors and if so could... Jan 8 2024, 03:32 PM
technicalninja
When I was racing, I was ok with my EGTs going up... Jan 8 2024, 03:03 PM
gereed75 Cool comparison - 1350-1375 is where I run my Lyco... Jan 8 2024, 03:20 PM
mb911
Cool comparison - 1350-1375 is where I run my Lyc... Jan 9 2024, 06:20 AM
technicalninja
No direct experience with Porsche but I agree tha... Jan 8 2024, 03:25 PM
VaccaRabite
@technicalninja
I did that BRIEFLY on my old 20... Jan 9 2024, 02:24 PM
ChrisFoley Aerospace Logic changed the standard 5 second scan... Jan 8 2024, 03:36 PM
technicalninja Just dying to know.
Delta across the CHT sensors?... Jan 8 2024, 04:23 PM
ChrisFoley
Just dying to know.
Delta across the CHT sensors... Jan 9 2024, 05:17 AM
wndsrfr For my 2316 I put in 4 TC's because I could an... Jan 8 2024, 08:04 PM
technicalninja Sounds great!
Thanks for the clips.
Couple of... Jan 8 2024, 08:44 PM
gereed75 Slightly OT but telling: My son was runnning an Au... Jan 9 2024, 08:28 AM
Root_Werks Usually run low 1300's on my O200 in cruise.
... Jan 9 2024, 10:00 AM
gereed75 There is a lot more that could be discussed about ... Jan 9 2024, 12:14 PM
technicalninja
There is a lot more that could be discussed about... Jan 9 2024, 01:20 PM
technicalninja PM sent
Appreciate the additional data.
30 is en... Jan 9 2024, 02:38 PM
technicalninja Thread took a turn I didn't expect...
Zach c... Jan 9 2024, 11:09 PM
VaccaRabite Something to consider...
Microsquirt (which uses ... Jan 10 2024, 10:21 AM
technicalninja
Something to consider...
Microsquirt (which uses... Jan 10 2024, 01:08 PM
stownsen914 It must have been 1300 degrees I was remembering, ... Jan 12 2024, 07:23 AM![]() ![]() |
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