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| technicalninja |
Jan 7 2024, 08:02 PM
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The title is the question.
I know what to look for with water-cooled stuff. I have no experience with air-cooled stuff yet... What say you? Is there a normal range? A never exceed number? Anyone ever use 4 thermocouples? Was there any noticeable difference (#3 is of concern to me)? Thoughts, tips, any data would be greatly appreciated! |
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| gereed75 |
Jan 8 2024, 02:19 PM
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No direct experience with Porsche but I agree that EGT would be the best method if you are trying to balance combustion in each cylinder. Maybe you could get close just by thermo imaging each exhaust runner without the need to actually mount thermocouples in each runner.
Also agree that 1.5 - 2” below cylinder is about right. More important is to make them all the same There really is no right number for temp, it will always be moving and depends on thermo couple location and engine state. Maybe you could see delta between cylinders and tune accordingly. Balancing is done in aircraft by changing out injection nozzles restrictors. They can be had in .5 gph increments. Even then you are not looking at absolute temperature values, you are looking at which cylinder peaks first as you lean at a set power setting. First to peak is the leanest cylinder. Back in the day, It was common practice to tune go cart race engines on the fly using EGT and a driver adjustable mixture knob. Chris, were you running 4 sensors and if so could you see any delta? |
| ChrisFoley |
Jan 8 2024, 03:32 PM
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Chris, were you running 4 sensors and if so could you see any delta? I had visual data only for all 4 cylinders, on a single digital readout, scanned in sequence at one second intervals. If one went out of range the readout stayed on that cylinder. There was some variation but in general it was fairly uniform. At times I reamed a jet orifice to make the spread smaller. |
technicalninja Max EGT? Jan 7 2024, 08:02 PM
Mikey914 In aircraft it’s around 1450.
Technique is to l... Jan 8 2024, 12:31 AM
technicalninja Is that an air-cooled aircraft?
Seems hot to me, ... Jan 8 2024, 12:59 AM
GregAmy What's your goal with installing EGTs?
I... Jan 8 2024, 07:00 AM
gereed75 I also come from an aviation background. What Greg... Jan 8 2024, 07:54 AM
stownsen914 Decades ago, we didn't have reasonably priced ... Jan 8 2024, 12:52 PM
VaccaRabite I don't know that max EGT matter much, so long... Jan 8 2024, 08:54 AM
gereed75 Rich helps keep CHT low. Lean can also produce low... Jan 8 2024, 10:25 AM
technicalninja CHT is first in my air-cooled book. I have never u... Jan 8 2024, 12:36 PM
technicalninja Bingo! That's more like what I was expecti... Jan 8 2024, 01:29 PM
ChrisFoley When I was racing, I was ok with my EGTs going up ... Jan 8 2024, 02:09 PM
ChrisFoley 1200F is super rich and probably giving up a lot o... Jan 8 2024, 02:10 PM
technicalninja
When I was racing, I was ok with my EGTs going up... Jan 8 2024, 03:03 PM
gereed75 Cool comparison - 1350-1375 is where I run my Lyco... Jan 8 2024, 03:20 PM
mb911
Cool comparison - 1350-1375 is where I run my Lyc... Jan 9 2024, 06:20 AM
technicalninja
No direct experience with Porsche but I agree tha... Jan 8 2024, 03:25 PM
VaccaRabite
@technicalninja
I did that BRIEFLY on my old 20... Jan 9 2024, 02:24 PM
ChrisFoley Aerospace Logic changed the standard 5 second scan... Jan 8 2024, 03:36 PM
technicalninja Just dying to know.
Delta across the CHT sensors?... Jan 8 2024, 04:23 PM
ChrisFoley
Just dying to know.
Delta across the CHT sensors... Jan 9 2024, 05:17 AM
wndsrfr For my 2316 I put in 4 TC's because I could an... Jan 8 2024, 08:04 PM
technicalninja Sounds great!
Thanks for the clips.
Couple of... Jan 8 2024, 08:44 PM
gereed75 Slightly OT but telling: My son was runnning an Au... Jan 9 2024, 08:28 AM
Root_Werks Usually run low 1300's on my O200 in cruise.
... Jan 9 2024, 10:00 AM
gereed75 There is a lot more that could be discussed about ... Jan 9 2024, 12:14 PM
technicalninja
There is a lot more that could be discussed about... Jan 9 2024, 01:20 PM
technicalninja PM sent
Appreciate the additional data.
30 is en... Jan 9 2024, 02:38 PM
technicalninja Thread took a turn I didn't expect...
Zach c... Jan 9 2024, 11:09 PM
VaccaRabite Something to consider...
Microsquirt (which uses ... Jan 10 2024, 10:21 AM
technicalninja
Something to consider...
Microsquirt (which uses... Jan 10 2024, 01:08 PM
stownsen914 It must have been 1300 degrees I was remembering, ... Jan 12 2024, 07:23 AM![]() ![]() |
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