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> Considering a run of shifter knobs, I've not done one in years
VaccaRabite
post Jan 29 2024, 01:14 PM
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Hey all, I'm considering a run of 917 style shifter knobs, which I've not done in about 5 years.

These would be different from the ones I have made in the past.

I bought a bit of European birch plywood, and I plan to make them from that. The shipping cost more the then lumber, and the lumber wasn't cheap.

In the past I have always used either maple and mahogany or maple and dark walnut for these knobs. And then finished them with several oats of oil and wax.

This time around they would be very (hopefully very very) similar to the knobs made by the Porsche race teams for their 917 cars. Right wood. Right finish. Wrong car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

The knobs were known as "balsa" shift knobs, but were actually made from birch ply and glued onto the shifter rod.

My plan is to turn and smooth them, and fit them with the delrin inserts I make (instead of glueing the knob to your shift rod). But otherwise they will be very much like the originals - no finish save the oils from your hands.

The wood is a furniture grade euro ply - its not the rough crap from the local home depot.

I've not got the wood yet, and I need to order more delrin rod for the inserts. But before I do that, is there even any interest in this, or am I the only one that thinks its a cool idea?

As far as I know, no-one else is doing these this way, everyone is making them similar to how I was doing it, though I've yet to see someone making the inserts I developed for use with the stock crush rings.

These would definitely be a little more racey and raw. I don't know, maybe I'm the only one that thinks it would be cool.

I should also point out, these could also be finished in oil and wax for a bit of refinement and would likely look awesome. But I kinda want to make them as close to the actual deal as I can this time, and see how it goes.

Let me know what you think. And I'll make up a test knob when the wood gets to me.

Zach
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post Jan 30 2024, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(VaccaRabite @ Jan 29 2024, 11:14 AM) *

Hey all, I'm considering a run of 917 style shifter knobs, which I've not done in about 5 years.

These would be different from the ones I have made in the past.

I bought a bit of European birch plywood, and I plan to make them from that. The shipping cost more the then lumber, and the lumber wasn't cheap.

In the past I have always used either maple and mahogany or maple and dark walnut for these knobs. And then finished them with several oats of oil and wax.

This time around they would be very (hopefully very very) similar to the knobs made by the Porsche race teams for their 917 cars. Right wood. Right finish. Wrong car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

The knobs were known as "balsa" shift knobs, but were actually made from birch ply and glued onto the shifter rod.

My plan is to turn and smooth them, and fit them with the delrin inserts I make (instead of glueing the knob to your shift rod). But otherwise they will be very much like the originals - no finish save the oils from your hands.

The wood is a furniture grade euro ply - its not the rough crap from the local home depot.

I've not got the wood yet, and I need to order more delrin rod for the inserts. But before I do that, is there even any interest in this, or am I the only one that thinks its a cool idea?

As far as I know, no-one else is doing these this way, everyone is making them similar to how I was doing it, though I've yet to see someone making the inserts I developed for use with the stock crush rings.

These would definitely be a little more racey and raw. I don't know, maybe I'm the only one that thinks it would be cool.

I should also point out, these could also be finished in oil and wax for a bit of refinement and would likely look awesome. But I kinda want to make them as close to the actual deal as I can this time, and see how it goes.

Let me know what you think. And I'll make up a test knob when the wood gets to me.

Zach

As a woodworker/woodturner I have experience with Dymondwood, short in supply since the plant burned several years ago. This laminated resin infused Baltic Birch material makes excellent shift knobs, and a variety of colors can allow laminations color matched to car color schemes. Another similar material named DymaLux may now be more readily available. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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post Jan 30 2024, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(Jamie @ Jan 30 2024, 11:17 AM) *


As a woodworker/woodturner I have experience with Dymondwood, short in supply since the plant burned several years ago. This laminated resin infused Baltic Birch material makes excellent shift knobs, and a variety of colors can allow laminations color matched to car color schemes. Another similar material named DymaLux may now be more readily available. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)


I tried this stuff about 10 years ago. I turns beautifully and polishes up amazing. But it is NOT UV stable. Back in the day my WRX was the test bed for a lot of knobs I made, and all of the resin impregnated plywood I tried cracked badly within a week to a month. I tried several different times with different craft plys from different plants. I finally got one I thought had been a success but then it started cracking just after 1 month. I still have a bunch of the stuff in my shop, and will occasionally make things like pens and ornaments from it. Its great stuff so long as you don't keep it in the sun.

At the time I actually talked to the Dymondwood people about it and they confirmed that their product was not intended where it would be in a warm and UV heavy environment. I recall bow makers were also having issues with it when people would leave their bows in the car between shooting sessions. Then they would draw it one day and the bow would come apart dramatically.

THAT SAID - most people keep classics in the garage, and my WRX was an outside car. It might work fine. But I'm not going to try it again.

At the time I also tried to find a marine version of the same, but no one was making it. That may have changed over the past decade.

This is the same reason I stopped doing the CA finish I was using for a bit. I sent some to Europe and got word that the finish was delaminating from the wood given the much colder climate. The wood contracted and the CA finish didn't, leaving voids between wood and finish, ruining the knob. I made new ones at no charge for everyone that had an issue and got my lunch eaten. Since then, I've only offered the oil and wax finish. Takes longer to apply, but looks nicer in the end IMO.
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VaccaRabite   Considering a run of shifter knobs   Jan 29 2024, 01:14 PM
mepstein   I’ll take a couple. Maybe more. :beer2: I epo...   Jan 29 2024, 01:26 PM
technicalninja   I'm interested as well. How much $? Wan...   Jan 29 2024, 01:49 PM
bahnzai   I would be in again. I have one from your last run...   Jan 29 2024, 02:48 PM
BillJ   I wood be completely on board (hahahah).   Jan 29 2024, 03:28 PM
Steve   I will take one. Can you make it 8mm for the newe...   Jan 29 2024, 03:49 PM
BillJ   Also ii have the older rennshift. Are they ready ...   Jan 29 2024, 04:00 PM
mb911   I would buy a bunch and put them on my website if ...   Jan 29 2024, 04:51 PM
Front yard mechanic   Wood eye wood eye ! hair lip hair lip hair lip   Jan 29 2024, 05:38 PM
rfinegan   Hmm, how may people know this job punch line? W...   Jan 29 2024, 05:45 PM
Maltese Falcon   Hmm, how may people know this job punch line? ...   Jan 29 2024, 10:22 PM
SKL1   I'd be interested in a couple but I have no id...   Jan 29 2024, 05:55 PM
Literati914   Hey all, I'm considering a run of 917 style s...   Jan 29 2024, 05:57 PM
OrangeBones   I’m in for one that fits the JWest as well Zach.   Jan 29 2024, 07:05 PM
VaccaRabite   I did not know that JWest had changed the profile ...   Jan 29 2024, 08:24 PM
peteinjp   I did not know that JWest had changed the profile...   Jan 30 2024, 07:17 AM
Jett   Ill take two   Jan 29 2024, 08:35 PM
MikeK   I wonder why the factory used a wood know instead ...   Jan 29 2024, 08:49 PM
Freezin 914   :headbanger: I have one you made a while back, may...   Jan 29 2024, 10:12 PM
Nate W   I’d like to get one, thanks for taking the time ...   Jan 29 2024, 10:16 PM
Jamie   Hey all, I'm considering a run of 917 style s...   Jan 30 2024, 10:17 AM
VaccaRabite   As a woodworker/woodturner I have experience wit...   Jan 30 2024, 01:06 PM
Jamie   As a woodworker/woodturner I have experience wi...   Jan 30 2024, 06:36 PM
r_towle   I would be honored to get a couple of these!   Jan 30 2024, 09:20 PM
Spoke   I'm in for one. I have a nice Porsche crested ...   Jan 30 2024, 10:57 PM
GBX0073   Count me in   Jan 30 2024, 11:41 PM
v82go   Me too   Jan 31 2024, 06:05 AM
rick 918-S   For those that weren't around or don't rem...   Jan 31 2024, 06:49 AM
VaccaRabite   For those that weren't around or don't re...   Jan 31 2024, 08:45 AM
Jamie   For those that weren't around or don't r...   Jan 31 2024, 09:16 AM
Freezin 914   For those that weren't around or don't re...   Feb 3 2024, 12:27 PM
abes914   I am in for a couple please. I have one already i...   Feb 3 2024, 12:09 PM
Stratfink   I’m in as well…   Feb 4 2024, 01:50 AM
echocanyons   I am also in as well. I love the one that you made...   Feb 4 2024, 04:27 AM
cholland_   Also interested.   Feb 4 2024, 03:40 PM
VaccaRabite   Wood has arrived. I need to clean all the VW Bus ...   Feb 6 2024, 06:40 AM
BillJ   One question for which the answer wont change my d...   Feb 6 2024, 01:07 PM
VaccaRabite   One question for which the answer wont change my ...   Feb 6 2024, 01:38 PM
BillJ   Sounds good. Highly doubt i wont like it and want...   Feb 6 2024, 02:05 PM
Freezin 914   Would like to thank you in advance for even consid...   Feb 6 2024, 05:44 PM
TMM914   Count me in for pair!   Feb 6 2024, 08:05 PM
barnfind9141972   Count me in as well, for one at the very least...   Feb 7 2024, 10:29 AM
SLKWrx   I'd be down for a pair of them.   Feb 13 2024, 09:41 AM
VaccaRabite   Got sidetracked by a trip to Texas and working on ...   Feb 13 2024, 11:00 AM
BillJ   Hey there! Checking in   Mar 27 2024, 03:39 PM
VaccaRabite   I'm currently spring cleaning. At the moment ...   Mar 28 2024, 06:44 AM
BillJ   These knobs arent going to make themselves. >:...   Mar 28 2024, 08:56 AM
jhynesrockmtn   I would be down for two   Mar 28 2024, 10:44 AM
DRPHIL914   These knobs arent going to make themselves. ...   Mar 28 2024, 10:46 AM
technicalninja   I'm still in for two hopefully! :ninja:   Mar 28 2024, 01:24 PM
oldschool   Hey Buddy I still have the one I got for my old 91...   Mar 29 2024, 08:39 PM
VaccaRabite   Hey Buddy I still have the one I got for my old 9...   Mar 31 2024, 07:15 AM
VaccaRabite   The past month has been ROUGH. Overcommitted calen...   Apr 18 2024, 11:47 AM
DRPHIL914   :Qarl: no complaints here, i might have you make ...   Apr 18 2024, 12:02 PM
BillJ   Mines going on a race car so vibe is perfect. I h...   Apr 18 2024, 12:16 PM
technicalninja   :agree: Me too!   Apr 18 2024, 12:28 PM
VaccaRabite   I did a quick reshape and am happier with the form...   Apr 18 2024, 12:47 PM
mepstein   I dropped a stainless steel metric bolt in mine ( ...   Apr 18 2024, 01:14 PM
BillJ   Just checking in. I need a new knob   Jun 3 2024, 04:07 PM
VaccaRabite   I made 2 of them. They look cool. But I've b...   Jun 4 2024, 01:20 PM
BillJ   Zach that sounds perfect. Enjoy your reset man.   Jun 4 2024, 01:47 PM
mepstein   :beer2:   Jun 4 2024, 02:09 PM
Cairo94507   Condolences to you and your family on your loss Za...   Jun 4 2024, 02:14 PM


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