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914/4: 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 914/6: 70 71 72
| robkammer |
Jan 8 2021, 05:28 AM
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Hello all: I'm new to the 914 world and am hoping to add a 2.0 to our garage soon. I have seen references to a VIN page in the forums but can't find it on the site.
Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Apr 2 2024, 07:42 AM
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I'm still processing the above, but here are a couple of other fun facts to ponder:
The 1971 wiring schematic includes an oil temp sender circuit on the ignition harness and the original ignition harnesses have this circuit. The 1970 and 1972 do not. My thinking is that a separate wire directly connected the 1971 ignition harness to a sump mounted oil temp sender. Unlike the later 73-76 cars with the circuitry in the main chassis harness. The 1973-76 cars have the center console gauge harness connections in the main chassis harness under the carpet, the 1970-72 cars do not. |
| wonkipop |
Apr 2 2024, 03:48 PM
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,302 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille
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I'm still processing the above, but here are a couple of other fun facts to ponder: The 1971 wiring schematic includes an oil temp sender circuit on the ignition harness and the original ignition harnesses have this circuit. The 1970 and 1972 do not. My thinking is that a separate wire directly connected the 1971 ignition harness to a sump mounted oil temp sender. Unlike the later 73-76 cars with the circuitry in the main chassis harness. The 1973-76 cars have the center console gauge harness connections in the main chassis harness under the carpet, the 1970-72 cars do not. the thing about the 71 cars is interesting. not sure what that indicates. but the lack of chassis wiring in 70 to 72 makes sense. the cars coming out of karmann were only 4 cyl cars. the premium 2.0 was the porsche 6 and they were kind of seperate. with semi offsite production line going on. and all the 6s had a temp guage. how was the temp guage wiring incorporated for the 6 from 70-72? but does not explain 71. after the 6 gets canned the 2.0 4 becomes the premium engined car. but its totally made at karmann. no further porsche production line involvement. so for the first time a car with a temp guage is coming out of karmann factory? makes sense they would rationalise the chassis harness down to one item no matter what.? maybe they were considering a temp guage for the 4 in 71 as part of appearance group. i guess the question is did any 4s ever come with the temp guage in the main instrument cluster during 70 to 72 when they were all 1.7s. my files don't extend to looking into anything much pre 73 models. the one other thing i can think of re 71 is that they were still at that stage gearing up for more ambitious production. they were definitely going to do a rhd version for 72. it was advertised in the australian press and potential buyers were notified. (i think the twin adjustable seats of 72 is a vestige of that plan before it was cancelled?). in 71 all sorts of hard nosed decisions would have been being made as the 914/4 was not as successful as hoped in all the markets outside the USA and germany. it was a total bomb in the UK for instance. the other main markets for rhd were japan and australia. chicken feed. probably quite a few things were being readied in 71 that never eventuated in plans for the 72 model year? dunno if that explains the temp wiring in 71. but they would have been in a scramble canning the future of the 6 and altering strategy fast to develope the 2.0 L four. |
robkammer VIN Page Jan 8 2021, 05:28 AM
bretth Hello. Click the 914 info link up top.
:wttc: Jan 8 2021, 07:29 AM
robkammer Thanks, found it! Where can I use the VIN to f... Jan 9 2021, 09:26 AM
914werke quick answer: you cant. The vin wont provide any o... Jan 9 2021, 10:03 AM
davep Well, in actual fact you could use the VIN to acqu... Jan 13 2021, 11:55 AM
914werke Well, in actual fact you could use the VIN to acq... Jan 13 2021, 12:24 PM
davep
To clarify, in the U.S. without taking your car t... Jan 15 2021, 11:30 AM
rhodyguy :toke: Jan 13 2021, 12:33 PM
914werke :D Dave I suggest you cut down on the coffee.
I m... Jan 15 2021, 12:19 PM
Pat Garvey chill Jan 16 2021, 06:02 PM
robkammer Hey all! The Bumblebee that I was courting was... Feb 12 2021, 07:10 AM
davep That is excellent Rob. I am gathering the last bit... Feb 12 2021, 10:29 AM
robkammer
That is excellent Rob. I am gathering the last bi... Apr 2 2022, 09:36 AM
RMF6 Hi Folks. I'm new to this forum and don't... Apr 6 2022, 09:54 AM
FlacaProductions David can give you initial/as-delivered info off t... Apr 6 2022, 12:04 PM
914werke Do you have an ad here in the members section? Ot... Mar 4 2024, 12:51 PM
914werke So after a couple of cocktails one eve I send off ... Mar 28 2024, 12:05 PM
914werke The seat cushion thing was odd. The PPS I received... Mar 28 2024, 12:10 PM
JeffBowlsby Rich, Option M570 was a center seat cushion as in... Mar 28 2024, 06:54 PM
914werke Rich, Option M570 was a center seat cushion as i... Mar 29 2024, 01:17 PM
JeffBowlsby
[quote name='JeffBowlsby' post='3136491' date='Ma... Mar 29 2024, 01:23 PM
davep All 914 (4&6) would have as standard equipment... Mar 29 2024, 08:07 PM
914werke Thanks for the confirmation, I learn something abo... Mar 31 2024, 05:12 PM
wonkipop
Thanks for the confirmation, I learn something ab... Apr 1 2024, 06:03 PM
wonkipop as an aside.
i have often looked at the parcel bi... Apr 1 2024, 06:17 PM
wonkipop snooped around in my files which are mostly re 74 ... Apr 1 2024, 10:15 PM
wonkipop i would speculate the following (with reasonable b... Apr 1 2024, 10:40 PM
wonkipop
I'm still processing the above, but here are ... Apr 2 2024, 02:50 PM
wonkipop
I'm still processing the above, but here are ... Apr 4 2024, 03:47 PM
wonkipop As another little bit of info.
we did find one 74 ... Apr 2 2024, 03:16 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby
this was the one and only 74 1.8 th... Apr 2 2024, 06:37 PM
wonkipop and i trawled the files on the 74 1.8 s.
79 exampl... Apr 2 2024, 06:44 PM
wonkipop @JeffBowlsby .
here is some stuff i isolated out a... Apr 2 2024, 09:59 PM
wonkipop and here is the other one from the 75 brochure.
U... Apr 2 2024, 10:31 PM
JeffBowlsby Checking a few archives:
The center gauge console... Apr 3 2024, 10:48 AM
wonkipop
Checking a few archives:
The center gauge consol... Apr 3 2024, 03:06 PM
gandalf_025 Going back to the center cushion questions..
Does... Apr 3 2024, 10:57 AM
914werke Per my OG post my PPS just showed "Seat cushi... Apr 3 2024, 12:32 PM
JeffBowlsby Center seatbelts were optional equipment M166 (US ... Apr 3 2024, 02:23 PM
JeffBowlsby
Center seatbelts were optional equipment M166 (US... Apr 3 2024, 08:26 PM
gandalf_025 Does anyone have an idea of how many cars were opt... Apr 3 2024, 02:39 PM
wonkipop
Does anyone have an idea of how many cars were op... Apr 3 2024, 03:25 PM
gandalf_025 From what I understand the center belt was only of... Apr 3 2024, 05:06 PM
mepstein I’ve only seen center belts in early cars and my... Apr 3 2024, 08:43 PM
wonkipop
I’ve only seen center belts in early cars and m... Apr 3 2024, 09:42 PM
JeffBowlsby @[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showu... Apr 3 2024, 10:16 PM
wonkipop
@[url=http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?show... Apr 4 2024, 01:16 AM
wonkipop i've also worked out some details of my car an... Apr 4 2024, 04:13 PM
wonkipop here is a mission for you @JeffBowlsby .
its to ... Apr 5 2024, 01:46 AM
JeffBowlsby NICE. Verifying the engine tin number on the Mats... Apr 6 2024, 09:26 PM
wonkipop
NICE. Verifying the engine tin number on the Mat... Apr 7 2024, 04:20 PM
wonkipop i'm pretty sure its 74 that australia introduc... Apr 7 2024, 04:33 PM
wonkipop found out a little bit more on japanese and austra... Apr 9 2024, 03:29 PM![]() ![]() |
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