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> Considering a run of shifter knobs, I've not done one in years
VaccaRabite
post Jan 29 2024, 01:14 PM
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Hey all, I'm considering a run of 917 style shifter knobs, which I've not done in about 5 years.

These would be different from the ones I have made in the past.

I bought a bit of European birch plywood, and I plan to make them from that. The shipping cost more the then lumber, and the lumber wasn't cheap.

In the past I have always used either maple and mahogany or maple and dark walnut for these knobs. And then finished them with several oats of oil and wax.

This time around they would be very (hopefully very very) similar to the knobs made by the Porsche race teams for their 917 cars. Right wood. Right finish. Wrong car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)

The knobs were known as "balsa" shift knobs, but were actually made from birch ply and glued onto the shifter rod.

My plan is to turn and smooth them, and fit them with the delrin inserts I make (instead of glueing the knob to your shift rod). But otherwise they will be very much like the originals - no finish save the oils from your hands.

The wood is a furniture grade euro ply - its not the rough crap from the local home depot.

I've not got the wood yet, and I need to order more delrin rod for the inserts. But before I do that, is there even any interest in this, or am I the only one that thinks its a cool idea?

As far as I know, no-one else is doing these this way, everyone is making them similar to how I was doing it, though I've yet to see someone making the inserts I developed for use with the stock crush rings.

These would definitely be a little more racey and raw. I don't know, maybe I'm the only one that thinks it would be cool.

I should also point out, these could also be finished in oil and wax for a bit of refinement and would likely look awesome. But I kinda want to make them as close to the actual deal as I can this time, and see how it goes.

Let me know what you think. And I'll make up a test knob when the wood gets to me.

Zach
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post Apr 18 2024, 11:47 AM
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The past month has been ROUGH.
Overcommitted calendar as always while I try and balance kids and family and me.
And then we added cancer, death and a funeral to someone I consider a parent and mentor (often referred to as my outlaw dad). We got him in the ground earlier this week, and I've been looking for a project to take my mind off.

These knobs fit the bill.

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I made up 2 blanks, machines a bunch of the delrin inserts, bought fresh epoxy and started making. The original knobs were glued on to the shift levers, but I don't thing that will work for most of us. While I'm trying to make these as close to the "real" thing as I can, I think I have to diverge a little here for the sake that these aren't "disposable" race cars.

I have a larger block that will make about 18 more knobs clamped up, but these two will be the prototypes.

I realized I needed to make a new friction fit attachment for the lathe, so I did that first today, and then mounted and turned the first knob.

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After turning a gave is a rudimentary sanding and put it on the 914.
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Off the bat I see a few things I want to change. I want to take about 5mm off the face and reshape it - right now its just slightly more oblong then I want. If the knob is 48mm wide, then I need to trim the height down to about 45mm to get the profile looking how I want it.

But, overall I'm happy with it. Bear in mind this has NO FINISH on it what so ever.

That's how the original ones were made. This is also the correct (I think - as correct as I could find and get imported in) baltic birch ply. I have no idea what the Porsche race shop would have used at the time, or if the wood even would have been graded in 1960s as it is now - probably what was on hand. I did splurge and get a furniture grade product. I went that way as builder grade ply often has breaks and voids that are not acceptable in finished goods.

This knob is also a few MM smaller in diameter then the ones I have made in the past, around 48mm instead of 50mm. I may take it down another MM when I turn the face down a little.

If I add some oil I expect it will darken up a little. The second knob will be a test of that. Unprotected wood will also darken naturally on its own pretty quickly as the oils from your hands work into the wood.

Assuming I make a run of these, an oil and wax finish will likely be an option - like my prior knobs - with a slight upcharge. My goal with these is to make them simple and sell them pretty cheaply - somewhere around $50 plus shipping I think but I've not done all the math on that yet. Putting a finish on adds about a week to production. And it gets away from the "because racecar" vibe that I'm aiming for. But I do understand that I'm kinda weird, and people tend to like nicer things.

So anyway. No fancy mahogany and maple. Its European plywood. No fancy time consuming finish. Lower price.

You guys are my market research. Am I off my rocker?

Zach
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VaccaRabite   Considering a run of shifter knobs   Jan 29 2024, 01:14 PM
mepstein   I’ll take a couple. Maybe more. :beer2: I epo...   Jan 29 2024, 01:26 PM
technicalninja   I'm interested as well. How much $? Wan...   Jan 29 2024, 01:49 PM
bahnzai   I would be in again. I have one from your last run...   Jan 29 2024, 02:48 PM
BillJ   I wood be completely on board (hahahah).   Jan 29 2024, 03:28 PM
Steve   I will take one. Can you make it 8mm for the newe...   Jan 29 2024, 03:49 PM
BillJ   Also ii have the older rennshift. Are they ready ...   Jan 29 2024, 04:00 PM
mb911   I would buy a bunch and put them on my website if ...   Jan 29 2024, 04:51 PM
Front yard mechanic   Wood eye wood eye ! hair lip hair lip hair lip   Jan 29 2024, 05:38 PM
rfinegan   Hmm, how may people know this job punch line? W...   Jan 29 2024, 05:45 PM
Maltese Falcon   Hmm, how may people know this job punch line? ...   Jan 29 2024, 10:22 PM
SKL1   I'd be interested in a couple but I have no id...   Jan 29 2024, 05:55 PM
Literati914   Hey all, I'm considering a run of 917 style s...   Jan 29 2024, 05:57 PM
OrangeBones   I’m in for one that fits the JWest as well Zach.   Jan 29 2024, 07:05 PM
VaccaRabite   I did not know that JWest had changed the profile ...   Jan 29 2024, 08:24 PM
peteinjp   I did not know that JWest had changed the profile...   Jan 30 2024, 07:17 AM
Jett   Ill take two   Jan 29 2024, 08:35 PM
MikeK   I wonder why the factory used a wood know instead ...   Jan 29 2024, 08:49 PM
Freezin 914   :headbanger: I have one you made a while back, may...   Jan 29 2024, 10:12 PM
Nate W   I’d like to get one, thanks for taking the time ...   Jan 29 2024, 10:16 PM
Jamie   Hey all, I'm considering a run of 917 style s...   Jan 30 2024, 10:17 AM
VaccaRabite   As a woodworker/woodturner I have experience wit...   Jan 30 2024, 01:06 PM
Jamie   As a woodworker/woodturner I have experience wi...   Jan 30 2024, 06:36 PM
r_towle   I would be honored to get a couple of these!   Jan 30 2024, 09:20 PM
Spoke   I'm in for one. I have a nice Porsche crested ...   Jan 30 2024, 10:57 PM
GBX0073   Count me in   Jan 30 2024, 11:41 PM
v82go   Me too   Jan 31 2024, 06:05 AM
rick 918-S   For those that weren't around or don't rem...   Jan 31 2024, 06:49 AM
VaccaRabite   For those that weren't around or don't re...   Jan 31 2024, 08:45 AM
Jamie   For those that weren't around or don't r...   Jan 31 2024, 09:16 AM
Freezin 914   For those that weren't around or don't re...   Feb 3 2024, 12:27 PM
abes914   I am in for a couple please. I have one already i...   Feb 3 2024, 12:09 PM
Stratfink   I’m in as well…   Feb 4 2024, 01:50 AM
echocanyons   I am also in as well. I love the one that you made...   Feb 4 2024, 04:27 AM
cholland_   Also interested.   Feb 4 2024, 03:40 PM
VaccaRabite   Wood has arrived. I need to clean all the VW Bus ...   Feb 6 2024, 06:40 AM
BillJ   One question for which the answer wont change my d...   Feb 6 2024, 01:07 PM
VaccaRabite   One question for which the answer wont change my ...   Feb 6 2024, 01:38 PM
BillJ   Sounds good. Highly doubt i wont like it and want...   Feb 6 2024, 02:05 PM
Freezin 914   Would like to thank you in advance for even consid...   Feb 6 2024, 05:44 PM
TMM914   Count me in for pair!   Feb 6 2024, 08:05 PM
barnfind9141972   Count me in as well, for one at the very least...   Feb 7 2024, 10:29 AM
SLKWrx   I'd be down for a pair of them.   Feb 13 2024, 09:41 AM
VaccaRabite   Got sidetracked by a trip to Texas and working on ...   Feb 13 2024, 11:00 AM
BillJ   Hey there! Checking in   Mar 27 2024, 03:39 PM
VaccaRabite   I'm currently spring cleaning. At the moment ...   Mar 28 2024, 06:44 AM
BillJ   These knobs arent going to make themselves. >:...   Mar 28 2024, 08:56 AM
jhynesrockmtn   I would be down for two   Mar 28 2024, 10:44 AM
DRPHIL914   These knobs arent going to make themselves. ...   Mar 28 2024, 10:46 AM
technicalninja   I'm still in for two hopefully! :ninja:   Mar 28 2024, 01:24 PM
oldschool   Hey Buddy I still have the one I got for my old 91...   Mar 29 2024, 08:39 PM
VaccaRabite   Hey Buddy I still have the one I got for my old 9...   Mar 31 2024, 07:15 AM
VaccaRabite   The past month has been ROUGH. Overcommitted calen...   Apr 18 2024, 11:47 AM
DRPHIL914   :Qarl: no complaints here, i might have you make ...   Apr 18 2024, 12:02 PM
BillJ   Mines going on a race car so vibe is perfect. I h...   Apr 18 2024, 12:16 PM
technicalninja   :agree: Me too!   Apr 18 2024, 12:28 PM
VaccaRabite   I did a quick reshape and am happier with the form...   Apr 18 2024, 12:47 PM
mepstein   I dropped a stainless steel metric bolt in mine ( ...   Apr 18 2024, 01:14 PM
BillJ   Just checking in. I need a new knob   Jun 3 2024, 04:07 PM
VaccaRabite   I made 2 of them. They look cool. But I've b...   Jun 4 2024, 01:20 PM
BillJ   Zach that sounds perfect. Enjoy your reset man.   Jun 4 2024, 01:47 PM
mepstein   :beer2:   Jun 4 2024, 02:09 PM
Cairo94507   Condolences to you and your family on your loss Za...   Jun 4 2024, 02:14 PM


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