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| rjames |
 Jun 11 2024, 08:25 PM
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I'm made of metal  Group: Members Posts: 4,269 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest 
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So I got one of the ball joints installed into the strut housing without any issues. Went to do the other one and got the wedge pin tapped almost flush and then went to tighten the nut and got to 20 foot pounds (spec is 33) before the wedge pin started pulling through. WTF?!
Is it safe to leave it like this? This is a wedge pin from Porsche.  |
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| rhodyguy |
Jun 12 2024, 01:37 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,245 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
Do not attempt to draw the wedge pin in with the nut. Disaster to follow. Clean and lube hole, drive pin home, tighten nut with your torque wrench. The wedge pin breaks easily.
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| rjames |
Jun 12 2024, 01:48 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 4,269 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest
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QUOTE(rhodyguy @ Jun 12 2024, 12:37 PM)  Do not attempt to draw the wedge pin in with the nut. Disaster to follow. Clean and lube hole, drive pin home, tighten nut with your torque wrench. The wedge pin breaks easily. Yup, all the posts I've read (many) have covered that and that's exactly what I did. The problem was the incorrect torque value posted in numerous places. I don't plan on using grease on the pin next time because only 20' pounds pulled it in too far. I'm less concerned about getting them out again as I am about getting them seated properly and allowing them to do their job. I'll use grease on the ball joint end to keep it from adhering to the pin and the strut though. |
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rjames Ball joint/strut wedge pin Jun 11 2024, 08:25 PM
mepstein Is the nut bottoming out on the pin. I would do so... Jun 12 2024, 06:01 AM friethmiller Watch out! The Haynes manual has a typo in th... Jun 12 2024, 06:59 AM rjames I was able to tighten the other strut to 33 foot l... Jun 12 2024, 07:49 AM Shivers From a thread at the bird board "(16 ft-lbs ... Jun 12 2024, 07:53 AM technicalninja The pin is compromised, nothing else.
I'd rep... Jun 12 2024, 08:02 AM
friethmiller
The pin is compromised, nothing else.
I'd re... Jun 12 2024, 08:09 AM
rjames
The pin is compromised, nothing else.
I'd re... Jun 12 2024, 08:18 AM technicalninja The possibility of the resultant ball of metal (le... Jun 12 2024, 08:39 AM technicalninja I disagreed with your method of ball joint to stru... Jun 12 2024, 09:02 AM rjames
I disagreed with your method of ball joint to str... Jun 12 2024, 09:34 AM Shivers
I'll post an update when the pins arrive and... Jun 12 2024, 12:47 PM Superhawk996 By design the wedge pin cannot pull through though... Jun 12 2024, 10:01 AM rjames
By design the wedge pin cannot pull through thoug... Jun 12 2024, 10:03 AM sixnotfour correct ball joint ? v notch versus radius groove.... Jun 12 2024, 12:13 PM rjames
correct ball joint ? v notch versus radius groove... Jun 12 2024, 12:42 PM technicalninja
The Koni instructions say to add antifreeze to ... Jun 12 2024, 07:13 PM rjames
The Koni instructions say to add antifreeze to... Jun 12 2024, 07:58 PM 914sgofast2 Are you sure that the hole in the strut housing wh... Jun 12 2024, 07:27 PM rjames
Are you sure that the hole in the strut housing w... Jun 12 2024, 08:00 PM East coaster Maybe someone had replaced the strut with the olde... Jun 12 2024, 08:15 PM mepstein
Maybe someone had replaced the strut with the old... Jun 12 2024, 08:19 PM technicalninja The struts are sealed then.
I'd use oil/ATF a... Jun 12 2024, 08:25 PM rjames
The struts are sealed then.
I'd use oil/ATF ... Jun 12 2024, 08:47 PM rjames Forgot to add that I appreciate everyone’s input... Jun 12 2024, 08:47 PM rjames So I ordered a supposedly Porsche wedge pin lock n... Jun 16 2024, 01:07 PM Superhawk996 You’re totally overthinking this which isn’t b... Jun 16 2024, 01:49 PM technicalninja :agree:
+1 for the mechanical class 4 nut.
I... Jun 16 2024, 01:57 PM rjames Thanks for the feedback. I’ll use the old nuts a... Jun 16 2024, 02:10 PM rjames So this is where I ended up at when tightening the... Jun 17 2024, 05:24 PM Superhawk996 Splitting hairs:
I would drive the wedge in with... Jun 17 2024, 05:58 PM technicalninja
Splitting hairs:
I would drive the wedge in wit... Jun 17 2024, 08:49 PM rjames
Splitting hairs:
I would drive the wedge in wi... Jun 17 2024, 09:14 PM Superhawk996
I’m not going tap the pin in further as I’m... Jun 18 2024, 12:42 PM rhodyguy The taper shape of the hole self stops the wedge s... Jun 18 2024, 05:45 PM |
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