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mepstein
post Aug 15 2024, 11:13 AM
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Interesting thread on pelican by a long time poster who knows a lot about painting cars and used to own a successful paint shop.

https://forums.pelicanparts.com/paint-bodyw...cost-paint.html
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post Aug 15 2024, 04:35 PM
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I rather doubt that "all enamel paint is the same". Dr Google says:

"Type of Enamel: Enamel paint comes in two types: oil-based and water-based. Oil-based enamel is harder, but it requires mineral spirits to clean nup. Water-based enamel, however, is less durable than oil-based enamel, making it unsuitable for high-traffic areas. Choose the enamel paint based on your desired finish."

"The term "Enamel" covers a wide range of paint materials over as many years as automobiles have been around.

Pyroxoline Enamel (early finishes)
Synthetic Enamel (Alkyd Resin) fleet finishes, still in use today.
Synthetic Enamel With a hardner.
Acrylic Enamel (late 50's)
Acrylic Enamel With a hardner (70's), Polyurethanes
Urethane Enamels (true urethane resin technology)"

"The difference? In layman's terms, longevity and durability. Urethane will last longer (hold it's shine) longer than enamels for the most part. BUT....enamels are a little more forgiving of marginal prep. BUT....urethanes are easier to fix if you screw up. BUT enamels are a little less expensive."

"In typical fashion, enamel paints are used to describe oil-based covering products, usually with a significant amount of gloss in them, however recently many latex or water-based paints have adopted the term as well. Enamel means “hard surfaced paint” and usually is in reference to paint brands of higher quality, floor coatings of a high gloss finish, or spray paints. Most of the paints are alkyd resin based, however some have been made by adding varnish to oil-based paints."

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post Aug 15 2024, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(JeffBowlsby @ Aug 15 2024, 04:35 PM) *

I rather doubt that "all enamel paint is the same". Dr Google says:

"Type of Enamel: Enamel paint comes in two types: oil-based and water-based. Oil-based enamel is harder, but it requires mineral spirits to clean nup. Water-based enamel, however, is less durable than oil-based enamel, making it unsuitable for high-traffic areas. Choose the enamel paint based on your desired finish."

"The term "Enamel" covers a wide range of paint materials over as many years as automobiles have been around.

Pyroxoline Enamel (early finishes)
Synthetic Enamel (Alkyd Resin) fleet finishes, still in use today.
Synthetic Enamel With a hardner.
Acrylic Enamel (late 50's)
Acrylic Enamel With a hardner (70's), Polyurethanes
Urethane Enamels (true urethane resin technology)"

"The difference? In layman's terms, longevity and durability. Urethane will last longer (hold it's shine) longer than enamels for the most part. BUT....enamels are a little more forgiving of marginal prep. BUT....urethanes are easier to fix if you screw up. BUT enamels are a little less expensive."

"In typical fashion, enamel paints are used to describe oil-based covering products, usually with a significant amount of gloss in them, however recently many latex or water-based paints have adopted the term as well. Enamel means “hard surfaced paint” and usually is in reference to paint brands of higher quality, floor coatings of a high gloss finish, or spray paints. Most of the paints are alkyd resin based, however some have been made by adding varnish to oil-based paints."


So far as I know originally our 914's were painted with straight enamel.

I was wrong once, but it was a long time ago
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mepstein   Cheap paint   Aug 15 2024, 11:13 AM
Root_Werks   Eh, even if I was going to paint my 30 year old Fo...   Aug 15 2024, 11:17 AM
Superhawk996   Suspect it will last as long as any enamel paint f...   Aug 15 2024, 11:31 AM
mepstein   What little I know about paint, any kind of paint,...   Aug 15 2024, 11:41 AM
930cabman   What little I know about paint, any kind of paint...   Aug 15 2024, 03:51 PM
Mowog4   I decided to paint my Bugeye Sprite myself (my fir...   Aug 15 2024, 11:42 AM
JeffBowlsby   I rather doubt that "all enamel paint is the ...   Aug 15 2024, 04:35 PM
930cabman   I rather doubt that "all enamel paint is the...   Aug 15 2024, 05:08 PM
76-914   I used their enamel on my two tone front bumper an...   Aug 15 2024, 07:21 PM
Front yard mechanic   I painted my little Toyota truck the same way. The...   Aug 15 2024, 08:13 PM
bkrantz   And Earl Scheib used to paint cars for $29.95...   Aug 15 2024, 09:21 PM
DennisV   But how much for an actual commercial paint job (...   Aug 16 2024, 02:34 PM
windforfun   But how much for an actual commercial paint job ...   Aug 16 2024, 03:52 PM
MikeK   I've been using the Summit line of primers lat...   Aug 16 2024, 11:03 AM
VaccaRabite   Several years ago I painted a guys M!008 CUCV ...   Aug 16 2024, 02:17 PM
slowrodent   I've had some bad experience using inexpensive...   Aug 16 2024, 04:14 PM
Unobtanium-inc   I've painted several Porsche over the years an...   Aug 16 2024, 10:15 PM
Ishley   I painted my car. I used a lot of Eastwood primer...   Aug 18 2024, 10:08 AM
bkrantz   I painted my car. I used a lot of Eastwood prime...   Aug 18 2024, 08:14 PM
jd74914   I visited a lot of local vendors that sell paint....   Aug 21 2024, 12:03 PM
JeffBowlsby   And a great looking car to be proud of as a result...   Aug 18 2024, 12:24 PM
nivekdodge   This (if it posts) is my mail box painted with rus...   Aug 18 2024, 08:01 PM
Front yard mechanic   This (if it posts) is my mail box painted with ru...   Aug 20 2024, 06:08 PM
Ishley   I haven’t run all the numbers (a little afraid t...   Aug 20 2024, 05:29 PM
bkrantz   I haven’t run all the numbers (a little afraid ...   Aug 20 2024, 06:44 PM
Cairo94507   Boy, have paint materials gone crazy. I just boug...   Aug 21 2024, 07:58 AM


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