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> OT: Looking for a diesel Mercedes, Can anyone give me some pointers?
Dr Evil
post Mar 22 2005, 01:00 AM
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Some of you must know about old MBZ diesels. I am looking for one as a commuter/nice classy ride. I reacently looked at a 73 300D that was nice, but needed too much work for the price. Is there any years to look for? Stay away from? Things to take note of?

Anyone know what kind of milage to expect form a 4.5L 70s 6cyl reagular gas engine? Just for the hell of it as I have one that I want, but it will probably get crappy milage and that I cannot afford.

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post Mar 22 2005, 04:05 AM
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You definitely want a turbo diesel. During the 70s and 80s M/B put the 5-cyl. turbo diesel in the big S-class body. It was only offered in North America and sold like gang busters. They are a little slow off the line but fantastic on the open road, super comfortable and amazingly economical. They are also indestructible.

M/B built a few 300D turbo diesels. Those were the mid-sized body. The coolest one is the wagon but it is very rare.

The older M/B 4-cyl. diesels are all non turbo and really slow (but get great MPG). The 5-cyl. non turbos are faster but still a lot slower than the turbos and not much more economical.

There's a taxi company in AZ that has been buying a lot of the S-class turbos for their fleet, which is 100% M/B diesel. The reason is longevity and low operating costs, although things like A/C systems can fail after all these years and are expensive to replace.

You need to do your homework on anything after around mid 80s. I remember reading that M/B had one or two bad years where they were experimenting with particulate traps. Those engines are problematic.

The brand new E320CDI has the common rail technology. The common rail diesels are truly amazing... no smoke, smell and very little noise. They are powerful and economical and in my opinion a much better high efficiency solution than gas / electric hybrids.

At the Geneva show M/B showed their new V6-D in an SL of all things. This engine will replace their inline-6 and go head to head with BMW diesels, which are currently best in the world.

The V6-D in the SL (I think it was just a concept car) had three turbos... two side mounted small ones to reduce lag and emissions and a giant one on top for max power.

In 2006 the US will have low sulfur diesel fuel which will reduce the soot in diesel exhaust.

Pete (diesel fan)



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Dr Evil   OT: Looking for a diesel Mercedes   Mar 22 2005, 01:00 AM
MattR   A porsche isnt classy enough? Oh no... must resis...   Mar 22 2005, 01:06 AM
skline   I would look into a mid 80's BM diesel truck o...   Mar 22 2005, 01:12 AM
Type 4   Here is the MBZ forum. http://www.mercedesshop.co...   Mar 22 2005, 01:14 AM
Dr Evil   Forum good, me like, thanks. Still want personal o...   Mar 22 2005, 01:32 AM
bondo   My dad has 2 1987 diesel mercedes.. mercedeses? On...   Mar 22 2005, 01:33 AM
SP9146   You definitely want a turbo diesel. During the 70...   Mar 22 2005, 04:05 AM
MecGen   Hi Evil Had a 85 300D I would realy sugest finding...   Mar 22 2005, 04:59 AM
morphenspectra   There is a really nice vintage mercedes (early 70...   Mar 22 2005, 10:48 AM
Elliot Cannon   I will never buy another Mercedes newer than 1990....   Mar 22 2005, 11:09 AM
Rhodes71/914   My mom had a mid 80's 300D turbo, it was a gre...   Mar 22 2005, 12:49 PM
Dave_Darling   Two co-workers of mine had the 70s-vintage non-tur...   Mar 22 2005, 12:57 PM
flyloki   I have a 85 300TD wagon (49 state) for 2 years an...   Mar 22 2005, 12:58 PM
lapuwali   My next door neighbor had two MBZ diesel sedans un...   Mar 22 2005, 01:03 PM
Reiche   Dr. Evil: I own and drive a 1980 240D 4-speed (123...   Mar 22 2005, 01:32 PM
solex   Evil, I bought a 93 300D, some would argue that 93...   Mar 22 2005, 02:02 PM
GTeener   <...   Mar 22 2005, 02:03 PM
cha914   My Dad has an 82 300TD ... bought the car with ~11...   Mar 22 2005, 02:16 PM
bondo   With all this talk of Merdedes handling like a bow...   Mar 22 2005, 02:28 PM
morphenspectra   The one for sale here looks like the one listed on...   Mar 22 2005, 02:44 PM
Cap'n Krusty   From both my personal experience and the advice of...   Mar 22 2005, 02:48 PM
Dr Evil   Thanks for all of the info. What I am looking for ...   Mar 22 2005, 11:50 PM
bondo   <...   Mar 22 2005, 11:58 PM
Dr Evil   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Mar 23 2005, 12:02 AM
jfort   I had a 82 300D - 5 cyl turbo. I put well over 30...   Mar 23 2005, 07:04 AM
Blynes   Look for a mint mid 80's and be willing to pay...   Mar 23 2005, 07:26 AM
xitspd   Dr. My first Benz was a 240D. My second was a 30...   Mar 23 2005, 08:41 AM
neo914-6   I have w124s, the are GREAT cars. Here is another...   Mar 23 2005, 09:36 AM


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