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> Best Bushings for my Application?, Oh noes! the choices!
Which of the following...
Which of the following...
New standard rubber bushings. [ 2 ] ** [5.26%]
Weltmeister Poly-urethane bushings. [ 6 ] ** [15.79%]
"Sport" Neoprene Bushings. [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Elephant Foot Racing Poly-Bronze bushings. [ 11 ] ** [28.95%]
Mueller Bearings. [ 19 ] ** [50.00%]
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Brando
post Apr 22 2005, 04:56 PM
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Now, I use my car as a daily deutschebag and weekend autocrosser. Right now my front and rear end feel kind of soft and squishy. My car still has the OE bushings (cheap rubber) from 1975. I've felt the ride of a 911 SC with Weltmeister bushings and it wasn't bad, and also a 911 SC with the poly-bronze bushings from Elephant Foot Racing and that was just like riding in a new 993. BUT I've yet to feel how the ride in a car with Mueller bearings or Neoprene bushings are. Cost wise the Weltmeister bushings or Mueller Bearings seem best, but I'm more concerned with the ride of the car.

For those using different flavors of bushings, what do you reccommend?
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post May 16 2005, 12:30 AM
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We don't have a lot of posts on this board about replacing bushings. Go do a search on the Pelican 911 board and read about the woes people have encountered with aftermarket poly bushings.

Here's two for starters:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread....threadid=219840

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showthread....threadid=186891


Here's the rundown of your list (IMO of course):

stock bushings - not really available. They are vulcanized on to the control arm. As far as I know the only way to get stock rubber bushings is to buy new control arms (not sure if 914 ones are even available) or send your control arms to Smart Racing (for $400 they will vulcanize new rubber on to your control arms).


Here is a good link on how rubber works and how poly bushings work:

http://www.elephantracing.com/techtopic/po...anefriction.htm


poly graphite - here's the rub with poly graphite: they will bind because of imprecise fit unless properly installed. There is a variation in the diameter of the control arms and the poly bushings are not an exact fit. The "correct" way to fit them is to lathe them so that they fit your control arms. In short order the grease will squeeze out and they will squeek. IMO, they are a horrible solution. I'd rather stick with 30 year old stock bushings.


Elephant racing / Mueller Bearings - I won't debate the pros and cons of these two sytems because in essence they function in a similar fashion. They both install a bearing surface on to the imprecisely sized control arm and then ride a bearing on top of that. IMO, these are the two best solutions out there. If you are a cheapskate, you might be able to make poly bushings work for you with a lot of work. IMO, the risk of them not working is too great. For the $240 price of the Elephant bushings I'd rather not risk the squeeks, the binding, tearing your control arm mount, or the price of additional alignments if you have to R&R poly bushings.


BTW, I've never heard of neoprene bushings. Do you have a link?

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Brando   Best Bushings for my Application?   Apr 22 2005, 04:56 PM
Eric_Shea   New rubber doesn't exist.   Apr 22 2005, 05:36 PM
Chris914n6   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   May 15 2005, 11:53 PM
skline   If you got the money, the rollers are the best way...   May 16 2005, 12:08 AM
anthony   We don't have a lot of posts on this board abo...   May 16 2005, 12:30 AM
Brando   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   May 16 2005, 10:56 AM
Aaron Cox   youve been in my car ... welts frotn and rear.... ...   May 16 2005, 11:08 AM
ss6   I've tried all 3, currently using the Elephant...   May 16 2005, 11:09 AM
rhodyguy   at this point i have the elephant package on the f...   May 16 2005, 11:33 AM
Cloudbuster   Does anybody figure that there are other plastics ...   May 16 2005, 12:17 PM
nebreitling   i was under the impression that mueller bearings a...   May 16 2005, 12:50 PM
lapuwali   Mike's not making them anymore, but there may ...   May 16 2005, 12:59 PM
Mueller   <...   May 16 2005, 04:32 PM
iamchappy   Qarl used large shrink tubing on the ends of his n...   May 16 2005, 04:38 PM
Chris914n6   So what is the likelyhood of getting needle bearin...   May 16 2005, 04:47 PM
Racer Chris   <...   May 17 2005, 04:55 AM
ArtechnikA     May 18 2005, 05:05 AM
Racer Chris     May 18 2005, 05:08 AM
ArtechnikA   <...   Jun 2 2005, 10:03 AM
phantom914   http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Jun 2 2005, 10:56 AM
rhodyguy   the neoprene washer is pretty slick in that pelica...   Jun 2 2005, 11:18 AM


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