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> Lower my fuel pressure to help w/fuel injectors.., ...being too large???
Mueller
post Jun 12 2005, 08:54 PM
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Running 2.0 injectors on my stock 1.8, new fuel injection fires all 4 at one time (batch), I have a feeling new injectors are too much....anyone lower their fuel pressure to compensate for large injectors??

I'm wondering how low can I go yet still retain a nice reliable pattern?????
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post Jun 14 2005, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (lapuwali @ Jun 13 2005, 10:32 AM)
Perhaps none of this makes any practical difference (who knows how bad carbs are in flow variation?), but there's certainly going to be some lower limit. I'd expect 1.75ms to be very close if not over that limit. Dave Hunt noticed that, when running 2.0 injectors on a 2.0 with MS, that only 0.1ms in pulsewidth made a noticable difference to idle quality.

Since there were so few production automobiles using solenoid injectors in the early '70s I'm convinced that Porsche/VW/Bosch "made due" with what was on the shelf - grossly oversized injectors. By today's standards our injectors are HUGE for our per-cyl displacement. Take for example the Subaru 1.8L-Turbo injectors I was using - they flow about 25% LESS than the D-jet 1.7 injectors. Lucky for us, our D-jet injectors are very low impedence and the coils charge quickly, so you can tune your PEFI to use super-short pulse-widths just like the factory did with D-jet. If the PEFI doesn't have the sufficient resolution to work with such short pulse-widths then the only logical alternative IMHO is smaller injectors. I think Mike's dillema is that he's adding forced induction, so he will probably need to keep the large injectors. It's almost a cake-and-eat-it situation. Hopefully his Link system will be able to work with the very-short pulse-widths at idle. I'm guessing it will since the Link is very popular with the WRX tuners.

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Mueller   Lower my fuel pressure to help w/fuel injectors..   Jun 12 2005, 08:54 PM
TimT   if I remember Link 1 you can fire injectors 180 ap...   Jun 12 2005, 09:10 PM
TimT   Also keep your fuel pressure constant... thsi e...   Jun 12 2005, 09:11 PM
snflupigus   is there a removable programable chip in these ecm...   Jun 13 2005, 01:05 AM
0396   Running 2.0 injectors on my stock 1.8, Interestin...   Jun 13 2005, 07:35 AM
DNHunt   Mike I know you can lower them a little but, I se...   Jun 13 2005, 07:47 AM
airsix   Mike, What pressure are you running? Have you modi...   Jun 13 2005, 08:55 AM
Mark Henry   I'm running 2.0 injectors on my stock 1.8 righ...   Jun 13 2005, 09:00 AM
Mueller     Jun 13 2005, 12:01 PM
lapuwali   You have to be careful on open/close times. The n...   Jun 13 2005, 12:32 PM
snflupigus   GM tbi injectors often go "static" - meaning they ...   Jun 13 2005, 06:22 PM
airsix   ...   Jun 14 2005, 10:45 AM
Dave_Darling   Mike, I recall reading on the Rennlist a year or s...   Jun 14 2005, 11:00 AM
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