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> Bay Area AX's: this saturday, GGR AX#5 @ Alameda
nebreitling
post Jul 6 2005, 05:45 PM
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get your cars ready now and come out to play!

http://www.pca-ggr.org/archive.html#msg436

who's in?

demick? howard? grant? trekkor? birgit? andrew? steve? gwen? ANDY (back from vacation?)? jenny (tranny?)? anthony? greg? mueller (bring the tail dragger?)? albert? chris? randal? ken? rob?

let's make a showing...

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post Jul 8 2005, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE (trekkor @ Jul 8 2005, 10:35 AM)
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My view is that safety has taken a step backwards at GGR and (worse) LPR.


(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif) We are making this out to be worse than it really is.
No one has been injured. This is good.
Last LPR a/x was extremly safe. No close calls. ALL worker postitions were manned well. The starters we're very attentive to the car spacing and paid close attention.
And this was the fastest course I've ever driven.

Safety issues must be viewed as THE most important factor. This is true.

Course worker postitions seem to get dropped on newbies as an undesirable, left-over job.
People need to realize, that the red flag is the first tool for a/x safety. Newbies are VERY hesitant to wave the red flag due to the fact that they don't always know when to do it or are worried about stopping the event for " no reason" and feeling embarassed in front of all these "pros".

At the drivers meeting the a/x chair always states that instructors should WORK with thier students in their assignments.

True, instructors work double and triple duty.
Maybe they should work with each one of their students for a few minutes each session to make sure they understand that a mis-thrown red flag will only mean the driver's on course will get a re-run, ( tires are hot now...No complaints from them).

Doug and Dana are working hard for us. ( GGR and LPR, as well )They want to have fun, too. Let's help them by teaching the beginners what to do.

The responsibility rests on all of us.

KT

I agree I didnt mean for my tone to be so negative. In reading my own posts I sound unappreciative of all the hard work that goes into these events. That wasnt my intent. GGR events are probably the best in the region from a coordination perspective. Lots of great work has been done. But there are safety issues we all need to be aware of at these events. My feeling is we can all work together to make events even safer.
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nebreitling   Bay Area AX's: this saturday   Jul 6 2005, 05:45 PM
trekkor   I out this weekend. See ya on the 23rd or 24th......   Jul 6 2005, 06:03 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   I'll be there, but with the other mid engine P...   Jul 6 2005, 06:07 PM
Lyressa Roberts   I would like to come but...... new tires and my bo...   Jul 6 2005, 06:10 PM
9146R   Nathan, I'd love to be there but were having ...   Jul 6 2005, 07:51 PM
ppickerell   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/htm...   Jul 6 2005, 08:24 PM
grantsfo   Bought a heat gun, a grinder and a big rubber mall...   Jul 6 2005, 09:31 PM
nebreitling   you're a monster, grant! change to corner...   Jul 7 2005, 02:27 PM
Jakester   I am so tempted to join you, but with my rusty dec...   Jul 7 2005, 03:02 PM
Dave_Darling   The only problem I see in that list is the 10-year...   Jul 7 2005, 03:11 PM
nebreitling   dave, i haven't seen you at the AX's in so...   Jul 7 2005, 03:26 PM
Jakester   How did I know that you fellow teeners were going ...   Jul 7 2005, 04:00 PM
GTeener   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/...   Jul 7 2005, 04:04 PM
fiid   I might bring the Miata along. Not sure though - ...   Jul 7 2005, 04:09 PM
Dave-O   <...   Jul 7 2005, 09:24 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   <...   Jul 7 2005, 09:35 PM
grantsfo   http://www....   Jul 8 2005, 12:30 AM
Steve_7x   Instructors/Rides etc... I think it is hard somet...   Jul 8 2005, 12:43 AM
McMark   Having only been to one A/X, I can't add a lot...   Jul 8 2005, 03:02 AM
nebreitling   good discussion. i have to agree entirely with gr...   Jul 8 2005, 08:37 AM
nebreitling     Jul 8 2005, 08:51 AM
Lyressa Roberts     Jul 8 2005, 09:03 AM
Lyressa Roberts     Jul 8 2005, 09:09 AM
Jakester     Jul 8 2005, 09:23 AM
grantsfo   A couple of suggestions to improve course worker s...   Jul 8 2005, 09:57 AM
trekkor  
  Jul 8 2005, 12:35 PM
grantsfo     Jul 8 2005, 01:17 PM
nebreitling   i don't think anyone is ragging on the events ...   Jul 8 2005, 01:26 PM
anthony   To Doug and Dana, if you are reading, I would echo...   Jul 8 2005, 01:28 PM
anthony   BTW, I loved the AX school. My instructors were fa...   Jul 8 2005, 01:30 PM
trekkor   This discussion is not meant to put people on the ...   Jul 8 2005, 04:38 PM
J P Stein   The safety steward works well. We have on for each...   Jul 8 2005, 05:49 PM


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