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> Bay Area AX's: this saturday, GGR AX#5 @ Alameda
nebreitling
post Jul 6 2005, 05:45 PM
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get your cars ready now and come out to play!

http://www.pca-ggr.org/archive.html#msg436

who's in?

demick? howard? grant? trekkor? birgit? andrew? steve? gwen? ANDY (back from vacation?)? jenny (tranny?)? anthony? greg? mueller (bring the tail dragger?)? albert? chris? randal? ken? rob?

let's make a showing...

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post Jul 8 2005, 01:28 PM
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To Doug and Dana, if you are reading, I would echo most of what has been said. I've experienced all of the following over the last 5 or 6 GGR AXes I've attended:

I've experienced not being relieved on time.

I've also experienced situations where there didn't seem to be enough workers on the course. I keep asking myself where is everybody that was just running?

I've experienced the lack of numbers on cars when I was working and not being able to radio in accurate info. A tiny shoe polish number on the windshield doesn't do it. Cars shouldn't pass tech without at least big tape numbers on the doors.

Almost every time I relieve someone on the course they seem to be very inexperienced at flagging and radioing information. I think that working the course properly should be taught at the autocross school. People should rotate jobs at the AX school so they get a feel for the whole operation. On real AX days my suggestion is that someone needs to check in everybody who just ran, pair experienced workers with newbies and direct them to an exact worker location. If you don't show up for work, all your times should be scratched and you should be suspended from the next two or three events. There's no excuse for skipping work. If there truely aren't enough workers for the course then the run groups need to be larger.

When I was working the course I had a guy with a PCA badge trying to take pictures too close on the outside of a turn. One spin and he would have been running for his life. He took offense when I told him to back off.

I have a suggestion for the AX school and maybe regular AXes. I was handing out time slips at the AX school as my worker assignment. Frequently new drivers were racing past the timing light even as the instructor was giving them the slow down signal. The drivers were completly unaware that they had passed the finish line. I think adequate run-off after the timing light needs to be designed into each course and I think a stop sign would be a very helpful visual clue for drivers to make a full stop or at least a hollywood stop a good distance from the person giving out the slips. When I was passing out slips on both the short course and long course there were many times when I didn't feel safe working that position.

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nebreitling   Bay Area AX's: this saturday   Jul 6 2005, 05:45 PM
trekkor   I out this weekend. See ya on the 23rd or 24th......   Jul 6 2005, 06:03 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   I'll be there, but with the other mid engine P...   Jul 6 2005, 06:07 PM
Lyressa Roberts   I would like to come but...... new tires and my bo...   Jul 6 2005, 06:10 PM
9146R   Nathan, I'd love to be there but were having ...   Jul 6 2005, 07:51 PM
ppickerell   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/htm...   Jul 6 2005, 08:24 PM
grantsfo   Bought a heat gun, a grinder and a big rubber mall...   Jul 6 2005, 09:31 PM
nebreitling   you're a monster, grant! change to corner...   Jul 7 2005, 02:27 PM
Jakester   I am so tempted to join you, but with my rusty dec...   Jul 7 2005, 03:02 PM
Dave_Darling   The only problem I see in that list is the 10-year...   Jul 7 2005, 03:11 PM
nebreitling   dave, i haven't seen you at the AX's in so...   Jul 7 2005, 03:26 PM
Jakester   How did I know that you fellow teeners were going ...   Jul 7 2005, 04:00 PM
GTeener   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/...   Jul 7 2005, 04:04 PM
fiid   I might bring the Miata along. Not sure though - ...   Jul 7 2005, 04:09 PM
Dave-O   <...   Jul 7 2005, 09:24 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   <...   Jul 7 2005, 09:35 PM
grantsfo   http://www....   Jul 8 2005, 12:30 AM
Steve_7x   Instructors/Rides etc... I think it is hard somet...   Jul 8 2005, 12:43 AM
McMark   Having only been to one A/X, I can't add a lot...   Jul 8 2005, 03:02 AM
nebreitling   good discussion. i have to agree entirely with gr...   Jul 8 2005, 08:37 AM
nebreitling     Jul 8 2005, 08:51 AM
Lyressa Roberts     Jul 8 2005, 09:03 AM
Lyressa Roberts     Jul 8 2005, 09:09 AM
Jakester     Jul 8 2005, 09:23 AM
grantsfo   A couple of suggestions to improve course worker s...   Jul 8 2005, 09:57 AM
trekkor  
  Jul 8 2005, 12:35 PM
grantsfo     Jul 8 2005, 01:17 PM
nebreitling   i don't think anyone is ragging on the events ...   Jul 8 2005, 01:26 PM
anthony   To Doug and Dana, if you are reading, I would echo...   Jul 8 2005, 01:28 PM
anthony   BTW, I loved the AX school. My instructors were fa...   Jul 8 2005, 01:30 PM
trekkor   This discussion is not meant to put people on the ...   Jul 8 2005, 04:38 PM
J P Stein   The safety steward works well. We have on for each...   Jul 8 2005, 05:49 PM


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