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> Type 4 turbo kits - time machine, 30 years ago Turbomania
Maltese Falcon
post Aug 11 2005, 06:44 PM
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Just went thru some archives and found me (L) and old friend Blue Kyle doing up the final prototyping on the 1975 2.0 T4 msds turbo system. This was approx Summer 1975 (hot feet maybe ?) .We spent the year making the prototypes for the 1.7, 1.8, 2.0 and 2.0 (late HB's) . My black car (2.0) appeared as "Turbomania" in "VW Greats" June, 1976.
Kits were made to be a DIY installation , and we opened the doors as MSDS in May, 1976. The turbos were sucessfully sold for about 10 years, the list price was less than $1,000.00 for a complete kit. As time went by, it was more feasable to convert to six cyl power...so the turbo kits went into obsolescence (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/sad.gif)
This is the underside of a '75 2.0, custom installed for Howard Leight.


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post Aug 12 2005, 12:05 PM
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...The forum here is a great vehicle where everyone sees and learns. I came on board after last years GAF in Ventura ('sup Allan !), and sharing my knowledge with other 914 gearheads is a No Brainer (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
I've got one old friend from high school that makes his living restoring mopar muscle cars. He charges by 15 minute increments just to speak to him on the phone (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)
So--some answers: The turbo kits wre all built to 1.7/ 1.8/ 2.0 or late HB 2.0 specs... all built to be a DIY system for the average guy in his garage. So basically kits were built "Dedicated" to thier engine-year-HB family. Fuel enrichment was done with a pressure switch actuating the 5th inj. via a resistance circuit.
OE timing and CR's were almost perfect in these T4s ! The system used a Rajay turbo, which was flowed for the max 6,500 rpm of the engine- which ran EGTs and overall engine bay/ undercar temps almost like stock--nothing melting anywhere (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/cool_shades.gif) I don't know if the jigs are in storage, or lost during 3 shop moves in 30 years- but a good tune/ fab shop should have NO issues building this simple turbo system with todays products. We sold ( inc. installs) about 200 systems. Luckily we built other exhaust items in order to keep the doors open !
The LT1 powered VW double cab, there's a couple pics of that on our site, just clicky link to our www below, then see project vehicles. It's good on power, it just doesn't like to launch hard --it's an axle buster (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blink.gif)
I'll dig up some more old pics and post over on Brad's Old Picture topic.
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Maltese Falcon   Type 4 turbo kits - time machine   Aug 11 2005, 06:44 PM
Mueller   cool http://www.914world.co...   Aug 11 2005, 06:46 PM
Mueller   We know MS part, what about DS? what or who?   Aug 11 2005, 06:47 PM
bd1308   thanks. http://www.914world.com/bb...   Aug 11 2005, 06:47 PM
bd1308   <...   Aug 11 2005, 06:48 PM
Maltese Falcon   ...Nuther- this is what the engine compartment loo...   Aug 11 2005, 06:59 PM
Maltese Falcon   ...last one for now- I frequently drove the '7...   Aug 11 2005, 07:08 PM
Maltese Falcon   Mike- MSDS, inc. Martin Schneider Design Systems ...   Aug 11 2005, 07:25 PM
bd1308   whats that doplar satellite looking thing in the e...   Aug 11 2005, 07:26 PM
Brad Roberts   Good stuff Martin!! I love the old shots/p...   Aug 11 2005, 07:27 PM
LukeD   Looks like a re-designed and relocated air filter   Aug 11 2005, 07:30 PM
bd1308   *foot-in-mouth* didn't even see that one....   Aug 11 2005, 07:31 PM
Maltese Falcon   Britt - It's a "Filtron" brand air cleaner , u...   Aug 11 2005, 07:35 PM
redshift   I remember, so many times, reading about cars with...   Aug 11 2005, 09:20 PM
iamchappy   I followed along with all the news back in the day...   Aug 11 2005, 09:57 PM
newto914s   How did you handle the fuel enrichment on the d-je...   Aug 11 2005, 10:12 PM
rhodyguy   noting the kits in boxes, did the setup require sw...   Aug 12 2005, 08:53 AM
URY914   How many kits total did you sell? I also remember...   Aug 12 2005, 09:05 AM
Maltese Falcon   ...The forum here is a great vehicle where everyon...   Aug 12 2005, 12:05 PM
Sammy   In high school a friend had a turbocharged 2 liter...   Aug 12 2005, 04:10 PM
airsix     Aug 12 2005, 04:25 PM
ematulac     Aug 12 2005, 06:16 PM
redshift   I am convinced that reality is just a big tent ful...   Aug 12 2005, 06:27 PM
SpecialK   Cool pics and website Marty!

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