P-car 6 or SBC 8, for Ury Options

[Crazyhippy]

Enough of the little horsepower pissing match, it's time for the fast cars to have their pissing match.

I'll be honest, my loyalty to the P-motor doesn't run very deep. They are WAY to expensive for the HP you get. The ONLY advantage i can see from a performance standpoint is the weight, and i'm not sure it's as big as everyone imagines (guessing less than the weight of a decent passenger).

The SBC is easier to work on, builds more HP easily, lasts longer at the same HP level, and sounds better (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif) (subjective i know). You do lose the front trunk, but a 914 is not a practical car to start with, so no biggy (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)

I understand people wanting to keep the bloodlines true and blah blah blah.. isn't that kinda like in-breeding?

please discuss (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving-girl.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif)

[Brett W]

I am going to do my best Jake impression, (since he and I agree on this), "Its all about the package". (Don't go there Miles) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

A properly built four, six, eight, ten, twelve, sixteen, etc will not be cheap. The car to support any of the above engines will not be cheap. If you want the best, don't go cheap andcut corners on Brakes, suspension, tires, or chassis. You can't take a noodle designed for 95hp and expect it not to get tweaked when you quadruple the HP. The 914 chassis is a noodle to start with and in order to take advantage of any engine package you will need the rest of the package built to support it.

I wouldn't bother with a cast iron SBC anymore. IN time the LS1, 2, 6, and 7 will be cheap enough and plentiful for everyone. They weigh about the same as the porsche six, probably less in many cases. The last version of the LS1 race engine weighed in at 330lbs and made over 600hp at 6200rpm with a restrictor. Why kill an engine when you can make that kind of HP at low rpms and have more torque than anyone should legally have.

I have never been a great Vette fan but the new car is a whole new game. Porsche will get their ass handed to them.

Now as to the sound of a high revving Six, can't argue it does sound nice but the new watercooled engines sound better. Most V8s sound better than a six any day. Take a Flat crank V8 and that is probably one of the best sounding engines in the world, next to a flat crank V12.

With a 400hp V8 914 I can put a shitty driver in it an he will wail all over a decent driver with a stock four cylinder. Sorry facts is facts. There is something to be said for pulling GT1 Corvettes down a straight-away. The only thing you will pull down the straight-away in a stock 914-4 or 6 is the recovery vehicle.

If I wanted a six cylinder Porsche I would use a watercooled motor. There is a reason the 959,962, 986, 996, Carrera GT, etc are watercooled. Durability, HP, emissions, and noise. Who wants to hear all that mechanical racket? Thats why Type4s sound like Diesels.