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> P-car 6 or SBC 8, for Ury
Crazyhippy
post Aug 18 2005, 10:53 AM
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Enough of the little horsepower pissing match, it's time for the fast cars to have their pissing match.

I'll be honest, my loyalty to the P-motor doesn't run very deep. They are WAY to expensive for the HP you get. The ONLY advantage i can see from a performance standpoint is the weight, and i'm not sure it's as big as everyone imagines (guessing less than the weight of a decent passenger).

The SBC is easier to work on, builds more HP easily, lasts longer at the same HP level, and sounds better (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/flipa.gif) (subjective i know). You do lose the front trunk, but a 914 is not a practical car to start with, so no biggy (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif)

I understand people wanting to keep the bloodlines true and blah blah blah.. isn't that kinda like in-breeding?

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Brett W
post Aug 20 2005, 05:02 PM
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There is a local guy that runs in stock class with all manner of Vettes. Early C4s through late model Z06s. His times are usually FTD or close to it. He has brought out everything from stock S2000 to a Stock POS Fiero and put down top times of the day before. Driver is everything in autocross.

But you get on a big track and that ain't always so.

Grant since you enjoy your four cylinder and feel that you don't need anymore to go as fast as the Trans AM boys, that's cool.

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My sense is that V8 conversion guys are just trying to make up for ..well the same thing Corvette drivers are. And I'm sure the V8 conversion guys can out argue this 6 verses 8 topic as they have lots of practice arguing the endless Ford verses Chevy debate. biggrin.gif


And the six cylinder conversion guys must have the same problem. If Porsche designed that four cylinder it must be the end all be all of four cylinders? Get real the car was a budget partnership with VW. The engine is a VW motor, the chassis is Porsche design Karmen produced, OK Porsche doesn't have any love for the car for that reason.

As far as brakes go, Porsche's current braking test and criteria go something like this. Run the car up to top speed as fast as possible, lock the car down and come to a halt, repeat the afformentioned 10-15 times. If the brakes fade once, start the engineering process over again. Now for the stock 914 brakes they probably could handle this because the car is so damn slow in stock form that the brakes would have time to cool in between 110mph top speed runs. But for the rest of the world with a decent HP-wieght ratio brakes are a problem. Most production cars don't have enough (Volvo and Porsche exempted). Sticky tires will overheat stock porsche rakes on the street if you drive hard enough.

I like V8s, I like sixes, I like any conversion that is well done and properly thought out. I don't like rag out ass four bangers that smoke, overheat and drop valves. My Honda could outrun most of the stock 914s on the autocross course. All 104hp from the 1.6 litre motor and still run down the street and get 42mpg.
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Crazyhippy   P-car 6 or SBC 8   Aug 18 2005, 10:53 AM
URY914   I would love to have a wide body SBC 914 that just...   Aug 18 2005, 11:06 AM
Mueller   not much to discuss, 2 totally different vehicles....   Aug 18 2005, 11:07 AM
Crazyhippy     Aug 18 2005, 11:12 AM
URY914   I think the SBC's get out-of-hand pretty quick...   Aug 18 2005, 11:15 AM
Crazyhippy     Aug 18 2005, 11:24 AM
ArtechnikA  
  Aug 18 2005, 12:31 PM
URY914   <...   Aug 18 2005, 12:35 PM
scott thacher   no but a stock weight 914 with a 250 hp turbo suby...   Aug 18 2005, 12:51 PM
JB 914     Aug 18 2005, 12:59 PM
Mueller   all of that HP is worthless if you have no place t...   Aug 18 2005, 01:00 PM
Crazyhippy   The 78 factory squirels are useless if you cant dr...   Aug 18 2005, 01:10 PM
spare time toys   SBC thats to easy folks put it in any and every th...   Aug 18 2005, 01:36 PM
Joe Ricard   All cars have a purpose. Mine is Autocrossing on ...   Aug 18 2005, 01:40 PM
Andyrew   Heres my opinion. If I were to do it again, I...   Aug 18 2005, 02:58 PM
ArtechnikA   htt...   Aug 18 2005, 03:11 PM
Sammy   As you said this one is completely subjective, but...   Aug 18 2005, 03:46 PM
andys   914 V8 = supercar performance on a pizza budget. T...   Aug 18 2005, 04:01 PM
grantsfo   I have yet to see a fast budget V8 914 AX car. <...   Aug 18 2005, 04:24 PM
Crazyhippy   there's more to life than auto cross (blasphem...   Aug 18 2005, 04:40 PM
Aaron Cox   <...   Aug 18 2005, 07:33 PM
Crazyhippy   Now you're talking about lightweights... the d...   Aug 18 2005, 07:55 PM
J P Stein   Untill Chevy made the Z06, Vettes were not good tr...   Aug 18 2005, 08:15 PM
Brett W   I am going to do my best Jake impression, (since h...   Aug 19 2005, 12:12 AM
neo914-6   Man, all this piss'n and dis'n...just buil...   Aug 19 2005, 01:06 AM
Bleyseng   http://w...   Aug 19 2005, 11:50 AM
skline   So what is the final word? An I still an accepted ...   Aug 19 2005, 12:42 PM
Brett W   If they won't accept you we can go start our o...   Aug 19 2005, 01:08 PM
soloracer  
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Brett W   Come on Grant. The SBC is no more lowly, and less...   Aug 19 2005, 02:42 PM
grantsfo   <...   Aug 19 2005, 04:22 PM
mrihop   ...   Aug 19 2005, 04:32 PM
redshift   Same trip to Vegas in a motorcoach, at 50 will kil...   Aug 19 2005, 04:42 PM
grantsfo     Aug 19 2005, 04:44 PM
mrihop   19 miles per gallon for me last time I did it at 7...   Aug 19 2005, 06:11 PM
mrihop   Oh yeah....I've always been a Chevy guy. The ...   Aug 19 2005, 06:29 PM
BIGKAT_83   ...   Aug 19 2005, 09:12 PM
SirAndy   <...   Aug 19 2005, 09:50 PM
914GT   <...   Aug 19 2005, 10:02 PM
Crazyhippy   AX AX AX.. i once again refer you to my moped anal...   Aug 19 2005, 10:08 PM
914GT   ...   Aug 19 2005, 10:09 PM
J P Stein   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Aug 20 2005, 12:59 AM
Andyrew   Wow, you guys are mean! The v8 dont handle th...   Aug 20 2005, 01:40 AM
neo914-6   That's what I like about Brad. He loves race ...   Aug 20 2005, 02:18 AM
turbo914v8   Wow where is the all the brotherly love
  Aug 20 2005, 09:18 AM
J P Stein   Dudes, the idea was NOT to start a flame war, eh? ...   Aug 20 2005, 10:17 AM
scott thacher  
  Aug 20 2005, 10:26 AM
maf914   Porsche has been known to build a few point-and-go...   Aug 20 2005, 12:26 PM
SirAndy   ...   Aug 20 2005, 12:47 PM
Mueller  
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grantsfo   <...   Aug 20 2005, 01:13 PM
Sammy   Proof postive that if a pure BS statement gets pos...   Aug 20 2005, 01:32 PM
SirAndy     Aug 20 2005, 01:54 PM
Crazyhippy   Ahh ha I found the nerves http:/...   Aug 20 2005, 02:26 PM
Crazyhippy   <...   Aug 20 2005, 02:28 PM
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SirAndy   <...   Aug 20 2005, 03:18 PM
SirAndy   ...   Aug 20 2005, 03:43 PM
grantsfo   ...   Aug 20 2005, 04:15 PM
Brett W   There is a local guy that runs in stock class with...   Aug 20 2005, 05:02 PM
SirAndy   <...   Aug 20 2005, 05:19 PM
redshift   I see Andy's point... I mean... what if we wer...   Aug 20 2005, 05:37 PM
Brett W   I haven't seen stock 914 win anything at the ...   Aug 20 2005, 06:14 PM
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