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> 914/4 Stroker cranks, Cheaper than Scat
makinson1
post Aug 13 2003, 08:00 AM
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Does anybody besides SCAT make 75mm stroker cranks for the 1.8 motor that are Cheaper than Scat?
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post Aug 15 2003, 08:44 AM
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Hi,
You never said what type of induction you intend to use. The think the biggest you can run on djet will be 2055. I do recall seeing a post on PP that some was running 2.2 with djet. No direct experience with that issue.

Here is my experience.

I used a 78.4mm crank, with piston pins located fo 78/80 mm stroke I had about -.058 deck. So .058*25.4=1.47mm deck in mm. The math answer is 76mm stoke should give .053 mm deck (.002in).

Size of the spacer will depend on the finished chamber volume of your heads, and what CR you will run.
.04 is the typical minimum. 60cc is the typical volume of a non-flycut 2.0 head. (My finished heads are at 52cc) Using these numbers, you would run 9.2:1. If your married to a hydro cam, you probably don't want to run this high. Play with this tool.

Aircooled.net engine calc tool

I have no idea if you can clear a stock base circle cam.

Both Tom and I used scat rods. I have gleaned from STF that the CB super race rod is smaller at the big end and requires less work or no work for 78.4 stroke.
CB Super Race Rod

Learn from my mistake.
Use belt sander and clear one rod. Send them out and let the machinist finish the others and end to end balance. I did them individually and still sent them out.

Engine width
I'm building without head gaskets. Stock width=x, new width =Y, head gaskets =1.5mm, my shims are .140
Y=X-(2*1.5mm)+(2*.140 in)
Y=X+.162 in.

To me, the marginal cost and work savings of doing 76mm stroke instead of 78.4mm is nothing. If you stroke, go carbs or aftermarket FI and do 2270.

I wanted to thank Tom publicly for keeping me in the game. There was a time early this year when I was going to toss the towel in. We corresponded a little and I was able to go on. My wife is looking for him though.

Carlos

76 2270 (2 years on blocks on 8/29/03)
76 project
74 (in the van, going to the dump on Saturday)
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makinson1   914/4 Stroker cranks   Aug 13 2003, 08:00 AM
Tom Perso   DMR makes good cranks, also check Aircooled. net. ...   Aug 13 2003, 08:54 AM
makinson1   Doesn't anything over 75mm require machining t...   Aug 13 2003, 09:11 AM
Tom Perso   No, I am running T1 rods, however. They will drop...   Aug 13 2003, 10:00 AM
tat2dphreak   why t1 rods? the extra choices/cheaper? or is it...   Aug 13 2003, 10:55 AM
tryan   i had a 75 stroker crank in a ga block. not much l...   Aug 13 2003, 11:39 AM
rhodyguy   toms 2270 has VERY specific components. mod t1 rod...   Aug 13 2003, 11:47 AM
cgnj   Type 1 rods are longer, journal is smaller, stuff ...   Aug 13 2003, 12:03 PM
tat2dphreak   sweet dude, keep us informed... I plan to start la...   Aug 13 2003, 02:20 PM
Tom Perso   Yup, You can run a T1 rod with a 78.4mm crank wit...   Aug 13 2003, 02:33 PM
Tom Perso   http://www.qtm.net/~persot/t4-9-27-5.jpg Gene Ber...   Aug 13 2003, 02:37 PM
tat2dphreak   :o wow dude! I am impressed. :clap: thank...   Aug 13 2003, 02:48 PM
tryan   i would call that a viagra shot. sure gave me a wo...   Aug 13 2003, 03:51 PM
redshift   Holy cow Tom, that's awesome! M   Aug 13 2003, 04:08 PM
Tom Perso   Here's the proof in the pudding.... http://ww...   Aug 13 2003, 05:10 PM
anthony   Great job Tom!!! Can you tell us how m...   Aug 13 2003, 05:20 PM
URY914   First off, Tom enough of the Type IV porn. My wife...   Aug 13 2003, 06:17 PM
Tom Perso   Guys, This is the first motor I have EVER built. ...   Aug 13 2003, 07:05 PM
URY914   Great reply Tom. I'm building a 2270 than. ...   Aug 13 2003, 07:19 PM
URY914   I have asked questions on the type4fourm and never...   Aug 13 2003, 07:32 PM
Tom Perso   Paul (and anyone else)... Feel free to email me o...   Aug 13 2003, 07:44 PM
Brad Roberts   This scares me... does it scare anyone else ?? I ...   Aug 14 2003, 02:00 AM
Tom Perso   I thought the same thing Brad. Everything else ch...   Aug 14 2003, 04:59 AM
makinson1   Does DMS have a website?   Aug 14 2003, 06:12 AM
redshift   That was ugly enough to make me not stop to look. ...   Aug 14 2003, 06:41 AM
porsche914blue   Demello Machine Shop http://www.demellocranks.com...   Aug 14 2003, 07:35 AM
makinson1   If I don't want to shim the jugs up to raise t...   Aug 14 2003, 07:58 AM
my15window   go with Demello, he just did my 78 and I was looki...   Aug 14 2003, 05:48 PM
Brad Roberts   Makinson... you shim the barrels to drop compressi...   Aug 14 2003, 06:16 PM
cgnj   Hi, You never said what type of induction you inte...   Aug 15 2003, 08:44 AM
URY914   cgnj, Great post with alot of very useful infomati...   Aug 15 2003, 09:07 AM
Tom Perso   Whoh, don't be sending your wife on me, I...   Aug 15 2003, 01:45 PM


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