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> type 4 turbo guys-, what turbo did you pick and why-
ottox914
post Oct 28 2005, 09:34 PM
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Alot of turbo talk lately. Just curious, for those who have been there/done that, what turbo did you pick, why, and if your project is on the road, how do you like it?
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Jake Raby
post Oct 31 2005, 09:14 PM
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A cat can be skinned more than one way...

Some ways are better than others and I'll do my best to find the smartest way- trust me.

There is no right way, the book doesn't exist that dictates that. Ed did a great job on his arrangement for sure, but I don't tend to walk in the foot steps of others, no matter who they were or what their results were.

FYI- To the poster above that mentioned that the prce of this kit will be in the neigb=hborhood of a six conversion:

Thats not the case I have seen from those who have done the conversion and paid someone else to do the work. Perhaps if you start with a junkyard bastard size six that no one else wants you may do it for even less than the prices stated, but who likes to work with junk that might scatter tomorrow? Sure some of those engines last forever, but guesswork isn't fun for anyone.

FWIW- The STOCK rebuild a 2.0 TIV these days, if done by anyone reputable at all will cost you 5K bucks complete.. Of course my prices are higher than that and I don't do a 100% stock engine anyway. Typically those 5K stock rebuilds don't even get balanced or even faintly blueprinted and rarely make 100HP..... So, whats so wrong with ripping out your current engine thats in decent shape, ripping off the tin and bolting an assembly to it that can increase power output by about 50-80%???? Thats why I intend to use those engines I have in my stash with 80-100K miles on them as some of my first guinea pigs- They are more likely to give us real data of what the customer that has a used engine in their car can expect and the points that their engine might fail just like the test beast did when the boost is cranked up!

This is the reasoning for me even trying to offer the kit. Its really my absolute last attempt at trying to fulfuill the aircooled 4 cylinder 914 market for guys that like the car the way it was from the factory. Like I said, what I learn can always be utilized for my 356/ 912 and beetle conversions and therefore my efforts with the 914 will never be wasted effort. At minimum I'll have a six cylinder killing machine with a MassIVe badge for myself and I guess thats really all that matters... I do intend to give the 914 following an option the same way I have with my N/A 4 cylinder program thus far so if it sales, it sales, if it don't its not gonna hurt my feelings! Hell this is fun work!

Lets don't get this blown out of porportion the way we ALL know that it can. There is a definite desire for a Turbo kit and my planned development in the 914 & T4 world, so don't crucify me for having some enthusiasm and getting the job done the right way.

I can see now that my forum will have to be utilized for all my developmental sharing from now on, including the results of the "melting" party.... Don't expect to see me answering questions about it here, all that seems to do is create drama and confusion.... If you are a 4 cylinder enthusiast and want to keep up with what I'm doing come on over-
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ottox914   type 4 turbo guys-   Oct 28 2005, 09:34 PM
airsix   IHI off of Subaru 1.8L. Chosen because readily ava...   Oct 28 2005, 09:45 PM
brokenmoped   Someone needs to design a damn kit and sell it. Te...   Oct 29 2005, 02:42 AM
dlo914   check out www.protomotive.com they do turbo work o...   Oct 29 2005, 03:00 AM
Sammy   I used a garrett airesearch T3 hybrid turbo from a...   Oct 29 2005, 09:44 AM
Jake Raby   You guys might just wana wait to buy any Turbo rel...   Oct 29 2005, 11:29 AM
Sammy   We need a "hold your breath until you turn blue an...   Oct 29 2005, 02:18 PM
Brando   Hot damn Jake... you really plan your stuff out wh...   Oct 29 2005, 02:26 PM
Jake Raby   I will cut the costs where I can, and while its no...   Oct 29 2005, 03:09 PM
BIGKAT_83   I bet that thing will rip up the Tarmac..............   Oct 29 2005, 03:26 PM
banksyinoz   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/...   Oct 29 2005, 03:31 PM
Sammy   7 psi on a completely stock 2 liter with no interc...   Oct 29 2005, 03:37 PM
Steaditim   Personally, THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FO...   Oct 29 2005, 03:38 PM
Jake Raby   Big Kat, My teener is just up the road from you ge...   Oct 29 2005, 03:57 PM
bug man nrg   turbo on a type4 works well if you know how much p...   Oct 29 2005, 04:47 PM
Jake Raby   Trust me, it won't be a dyno queen... The dyno...   Oct 29 2005, 04:54 PM
BIGKAT_83   Damn!!!!!!!!!...   Oct 29 2005, 04:54 PM
Hammy   Jake the mad scientist htt...   Oct 29 2005, 07:37 PM
Jake Raby   Yep.... BUT I just realized that I Hi Jacked this...   Oct 29 2005, 08:30 PM
r_towle   First off, great to hear Jake. Second, please kee...   Oct 29 2005, 09:17 PM
ottox914   Yea Jake, nice HiJack- I was going to mention that...   Oct 29 2005, 09:40 PM
Mueller   ...   Oct 29 2005, 11:05 PM
Mark Henry   This is the slippery slope that I'm on... I h...   Oct 30 2005, 07:17 AM
Jake Raby   Mark, Lets talk.. You and I work well together and...   Oct 30 2005, 08:23 AM
ottox914   Mr Mueller, the ?'s you pose have already been...   Oct 30 2005, 08:50 AM
Mueller     Oct 30 2005, 09:09 AM
rick 918-S   imachappy is a turbo 6 guy. he's btdt and i...   Oct 30 2005, 09:30 AM
J P Stein   A few observations: Turbo cars that do well at AX ...   Oct 30 2005, 09:49 AM
Mueller   <...   Oct 30 2005, 11:11 AM
Sammy   Yup, turbo aint zackly the hot set up for AX. My ...   Oct 30 2005, 07:03 PM
Andyrew   If your going to autox, I'd say run a smaller ...   Oct 30 2005, 07:27 PM
Mueller   <...   Oct 30 2005, 07:55 PM
Andyrew   All imza sayin is a smaller turbo would be better ...   Oct 30 2005, 08:20 PM
airsix   <...   Oct 30 2005, 09:01 PM
ottox914   All of the above comments are proven in the real w...   Oct 31 2005, 07:08 AM
Mark Henry   ...   Oct 31 2005, 11:31 AM
Mark Henry     Oct 31 2005, 01:38 PM
agrump   Mark, I am afraid you are right about the heat. I...   Oct 31 2005, 01:57 PM
andys   I fabricated heater boxes for my turbo 914 (Crown ...   Oct 31 2005, 02:39 PM
Jake Raby   A heater box pretty much isn't even a consider...   Oct 31 2005, 02:48 PM
Brett W   Why would a 914 four owner pay 5500-6000$ for...   Oct 31 2005, 07:21 PM
ottox914   Here we go again...   Oct 31 2005, 07:33 PM
jimkelly   For similar money I'd prefer a big type four 4...   Oct 31 2005, 07:36 PM
r_towle   <...   Oct 31 2005, 08:03 PM
jd74914   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Oct 31 2005, 08:07 PM
Jake Raby   The same FI I have been using on my N/A engines fo...   Oct 31 2005, 08:20 PM
jd74914   Ok thanks . . .just curious http...   Oct 31 2005, 08:22 PM
Sammy   I second the vote for a six over a powerful 4 if t...   Oct 31 2005, 08:29 PM
nein14   Why doesn't anyone look at what EvilEd did 94m...   Oct 31 2005, 08:30 PM
jd74914   how did he manage to keep the SSI's with the t...   Oct 31 2005, 08:47 PM
Aaron Cox   <...   Oct 31 2005, 08:52 PM
jd74914     Nov 1 2005, 08:42 AM
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