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> I'm depressed, 2 hours of dyno time for nut'n....., Ignition cr@pped out, wouldn't restart:(
Mueller
post Nov 1 2005, 06:12 PM
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What a waste of a day off.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/headbang.gif)

I knew it was going to be one of those days when my laptop wouldn't communicate with the Link ECU, luckly I brought a back up unit that I normally use, it's just that the 1st laptop I had was way, way faster...(normally)

Mark D (McMark) showed up and helped stomp on the gas while I played with the laptop, we started @ 1000rpm and went up in 500rpm increments...strange feeling with the pedal @ WOT in 4th gear and the motor would not go over the set load...

I kept hearing a misfire and then all of a sudden under load it got real bad, we changed out the distributor cap since the original one had some viewing holes cut into it for timing....it just got worse...then I noticed the air intake elbow was a little loose so I fixed that...I was hopeing that was it...nope still really bad misfires coming out of the exhaust....finally I load a new MAP setting and the car seemed to be idling better, then all of a sudden the car dies..."hey Mark, did you turn it off???"

"nope"

"oh $hit"

I get out the voltmeter, I have voltage like I should, no apperant spark....

So, it's one of the following I think (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)
a bad MSD box, a bad optical sensor in the dizzy or the Link is messed up....I have a check list of items to go over before sending the Link back for testing....

I think i want to replace the optical sensor within the dizzy with a hall effect unit, any leads or ideas?

McMark dyno's his car, I'll let him tell you about it...he had better luck than me
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post Nov 3 2005, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE (airsix @ Nov 3 2005, 10:11 AM)
Mike,
You had the link firing the coil before? I thought you were running the link fuel-only. If the link was firing the coil, where was the ECU getting it's timing signal from? Was it getting it from a pickup mounted in the distributor (like a pertronix or optical pickup?). If you were feeding a timing signal to the link via the distributor, is your distributor locked? The link would need to get it's timing signal at the same crank-angle regardless of rpm/load. An unlocked dizzy will change the angle at which the ECU get's it's signal depending on rpm/load and the ECU will calculate the wrong crank-possition. I know you know this - I'm currious how you were feeding the crank signal to the Link though.

-Ben M.

optical sensor in Unilite(locked)>Link>MSD*>Coil

the Link needs to see the signal 10° BTDC, I modified the rotor as a half-@ss attempt of changing the relationship between the rotor electrode and the trigger windows of the rotor...I need to make them indepentant of each other

*MSD acts as an ignitor or coil driver, to me it's just an on/off switch to dump the voltage on the coil

aaron, I'm going to get rid of the optical sensor and replace it with a Hall effect unit, if it works as planned, I'll be selling the unilite sensor (sorta cheap (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) )

Fiid,

I've been reading more on the MSv3, pretty cool, I should waited...oh well....


James,

I'll be looking more on msefi for info on that driver, on the surface it seems too simple to be able to completly replace the MSD, but if it could, that would be nice....

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Mueller   I'm depressed, 2 hours of dyno time for nut'n.....   Nov 1 2005, 06:12 PM
Dr. Roger   Dang Mike, very sorry to gear that BS happening. ...   Nov 1 2005, 06:28 PM
lapuwali   Couldn't make it today, sorry. Way too much w...   Nov 1 2005, 06:29 PM
McMark   Yeah, it was a major bummer for Mike. We started ...   Nov 1 2005, 06:51 PM
bug man nrg   Some time's this isnot what we need but it is ...   Nov 1 2005, 07:13 PM
fiid   bizarrely enough - I could really use some dyno ti...   Nov 1 2005, 07:20 PM
Mueller   we have a "runner"......problem fixed...sorta... ...   Nov 1 2005, 07:50 PM
Jake Raby   That rotor being so wide can definately add some w...   Nov 1 2005, 08:41 PM
McMark   That sucks. I wonder why there was a problem.   Nov 1 2005, 08:44 PM
Mueller     Nov 2 2005, 12:08 AM
Porcharu   Sorry to hear about your "issues" at dyno time - m...   Nov 2 2005, 12:34 AM
bd1308   what causes the MSD boxes to die? b   Nov 2 2005, 01:32 AM
Mueller     Nov 2 2005, 07:41 AM
DNHunt   Man, I swear the only luck you have is bad luck. Y...   Nov 3 2005, 08:22 AM
Mueller   Yea, bad luck tends to kick me in the @ss once in ...   Nov 3 2005, 09:02 AM
lapuwali   This part is discussed endlessly on the MSEFI foru...   Nov 3 2005, 09:23 AM
fiid   Yeah - I think the MSv3 board can run a set of tho...   Nov 3 2005, 10:40 AM
airsix   Mike, You had the link firing the coil before? I t...   Nov 3 2005, 11:11 AM
Aaron Cox   IIRC mike has a Mallory Unilite (optical pickup) a...   Nov 3 2005, 11:13 AM
jonwatts   ...   Nov 3 2005, 11:34 AM
lapuwali   You're going to pull the Unilite and fit your ...   Nov 3 2005, 12:16 PM
airsix   Okay, that makes sense. Sounds good. I'm curri...   Nov 3 2005, 12:25 PM
Aaron Cox   <...   Nov 3 2005, 01:08 PM
lapuwali   The Link may use a "next cylinder" method, which i...   Nov 3 2005, 01:50 PM
airsix   <...   Nov 3 2005, 02:23 PM
Mueller   <...   Nov 3 2005, 03:19 PM
fiid   You can make the v2 megasquirt do everything that ...   Nov 3 2005, 05:45 PM
Mueller     Nov 3 2005, 06:00 PM
Mueller   hmmmm...I just got an e-mail from Link, I asked fo...   Nov 3 2005, 06:18 PM
Aaron Cox   mike - hijack... how do you TIME a MSD style igint...   Nov 3 2005, 06:19 PM
Mueller   ...   Nov 3 2005, 06:27 PM
Aaron Cox     Nov 3 2005, 06:28 PM
lapuwali   Multi-spark boxes usually confuse adjustable timin...   Nov 3 2005, 07:21 PM
Aaron Cox   rock on james.... so, an adjustable one set at ma...   Nov 3 2005, 08:57 PM
McMark   It would work only if your particular CDI/MSD box ...   Nov 3 2005, 09:07 PM
TimT  
  Nov 3 2005, 09:48 PM


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