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> 6/carbs: ? about tall 2ndary venturi's, rich, I miss you.
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post Nov 3 2005, 11:50 AM
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carbs: ? about tall 2ndary venturi's
Hi all... thanks for the help in advance.

I want to try a set of the tall 2ndary's on my IDS-3C carbs.
I'm running the stock ones and want to try the tall ones, that I've heard called "906-style"

its a race car and withoug re-hashing all of my jetting and dyno history, my questions are:

1) pierce manifold says they have 2 different types in stock a 3.5 size and a 4.5 size. I believe this measurement is in reference to bore and not height. Pierce said that both sizes are the "tall" type. Which do I want? Motor is a 1967 2.0/S motor at altitude.
(the pierce catalogue references that the IDS carbs came with 4.5 short, but I'd like confirmation before I order)

2) Does anyone know if these tall secondaries interchange on the IDA carb versus the IDS carb. I would assume so, but I once bought some F33 emulsion tubes from Pierce that do fit the IDA, and found that they would not fit the IDS. I didn't know there was that much difference between the two carbs, which surprised me. But again, before I order do people know if the 906-type tall 2ndaries will fit an IDS-3C body?

again, thanks in advance everyone!
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Hi Aaron

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"Reversion creates other problems. In an automotive application, reversion refers to reversed air flow, or in simpler terms, it's when air in the intake runner reverses direction for a split second. The condition is caused when a burst of pressure escapes into the intake runner from the cylinder during valve overlap. Studies have shown reversion creates resonance shock waves inside the tubes which exit the open end of the tube at various rates depending on engine speed. It has also been proven that these shock waves interfere with each other when the stacks are in close proximity. Installing a free-flowing air filter on top of each stack or over the carburetor air horn eliminates these conditions."

Reversation is a bad for intake harmony

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brant   6/carbs: ? about tall 2ndary venturi's   Nov 3 2005, 11:50 AM
Root_Werks   Actually, Jake Raby had a decent write up on stack...   Nov 3 2005, 12:01 PM
brant   Dan, I think your referencing the horns I...   Nov 3 2005, 12:06 PM
Jake Raby   All my testing would not apply to the six... It ha...   Nov 3 2005, 12:06 PM
Root_Werks     Nov 3 2005, 12:59 PM
Aaron Cox   doesnt JP have tall ones on hez carbZ? Just a lea...   Nov 3 2005, 01:06 PM
Howard R   I got mine from PMO.   Nov 3 2005, 01:10 PM
brant   Howard, JP, do you guys know if yours are 3.5 or...   Nov 3 2005, 01:40 PM
Phoenix-MN   I have the tall ones on my 2.5L 911, I'll look...   Nov 3 2005, 02:00 PM
john rogers   My race engine has the real tall ones and the card...   Nov 3 2005, 02:37 PM
brant   Thanks Paul! John... is the 3.5 versus 4.5 a...   Nov 3 2005, 04:27 PM
john rogers   Yes, larger bore.   Nov 3 2005, 05:14 PM
brant   cool thanks John! (I didn't even know the...   Nov 3 2005, 05:46 PM
J P Stein   Oh boy, I get to post my only artsy pic....that I ...   Nov 3 2005, 06:01 PM
trekkor   that picture makes me happy http...   Nov 3 2005, 06:12 PM
Aaron Cox   gawd - what did those milled aircleaner bases set ...   Nov 3 2005, 06:14 PM
J P Stein   I've heard a few things about "why"....interne...   Nov 3 2005, 06:21 PM
J P Stein   ...   Nov 3 2005, 06:24 PM
Aaron Cox   whatchu runnin now JP? ITG style? wonder if th...   Nov 3 2005, 06:27 PM
brant   Its the reversion issue and my 4K stumble that has...   Nov 3 2005, 06:37 PM
J P Stein     Nov 3 2005, 06:49 PM
Aaron Cox   what is reversion? im a newb ...   Nov 3 2005, 07:04 PM
J P Stein   The only place I've actually seen this was on ...   Nov 3 2005, 07:07 PM
brant   I should add that I'm not sure I actually have...   Nov 3 2005, 07:15 PM
campbellcj   I have the tall secondaries on my car but also was...   Nov 4 2005, 12:24 AM
J P Stein   I run my engine quite rich on the idles....so rich...   Nov 4 2005, 12:30 AM
MecGen   Hi Aaron   Nov 4 2005, 02:40 PMThorshammer   http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Nov 4 2005, 09:35 PM
TimT  
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Phoenix-MN   Back to the original question - I'm running th...   Nov 5 2005, 08:25 AM
Thorshammer   Tim is right. Late injected fuel injection has th...   Nov 5 2005, 08:58 AM
Phoenix-MN   Also found this - "Other performance-enhancing op...   Nov 5 2005, 09:24 AM


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