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> rust in the rocket panel area, any ideas how to handle this rust?
bender
post Nov 4 2005, 03:04 PM
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guys do you think its a serious rust??
and i know i need to buy the rocket panel , do i need more parts for it?
thanks a lot


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post Nov 9 2005, 10:55 PM
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bender,

its not that its impossible...
but I very much agree with all of those who have advised you to get a different car. Here is how I will frame my arguement.

$$$$$

Plan A to fix your car: if you buy all of the patch panels, welding rod, paint, cutting discs, sawzall blades, and beer for your buddy.... you will have about 6 grand into that shell without a motor, or any mechanicals. Also, your buddy is going to get sick of this project after about 4 months (of evenings and weekends) and possibly quit or even disown you. So you run the risk of loosing a friendship. Not to mention loosing touch with reality, your spare time, your spare money, your girlfriend/spouse.

When you get done you will need to spend another 2-3 thousand on the motor, interior, mechanicals. And after investing all of that time and labour you will have a car worth $4,000

Do you see the math here?
6K + 4K does not equal = 4K

I kid you not.
I know people that started with better shells and have 10 or 20K into their shell with new paint.

Plan B is to buy something else. If you buy a 2K roller and put it together yourself you will still have learned a ton. You will still have the opportunity to have fun with your buddy on smaller projects and you may actually accomplish it in a year or less. When you get done you'll likely have 5-8K into a car that is worth $5,000 because repaired cars (like plan A) are not worth as much as no/low rust cars.

Plan C is probably the best one from a financial standpoint. Borrow, beg, or take out a loan. Buy a NICE car for $5,000 - 6,000. Drive it, wax it, tinker on it. Go to the race track and take drivers education from your local porsche club. When you ever decided to sell it you would be able to sell it for the same 6K or more due to inflation.

( you are not likely to sell it, because you will have so much fun driving it and you won't learn to hate it like you will with trying to fix your current car)

Its your car.
Its not impossible.
but I just hate to see people spend 200% on things.
Not to mention that you have about a 1 in 1000 chance of actually finishing it and getting to drive it.

and isn't driving it part of the point?

If you want to learn to weld so badly. Spend your money on a welding class. or maybe volunteer your time with your buddy on one of his welding projects and let him buy the beer!

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bender   rust in the rocket panel area   Nov 4 2005, 03:04 PM
bender   more pic   Nov 4 2005, 03:05 PM
bender   last one   Nov 4 2005, 03:05 PM
BMartin914   That IS serious rust. That is your longitudinal - ...   Nov 4 2005, 03:15 PM
Rand   The passenger side is usually worse, so be sure to...   Nov 4 2005, 05:08 PM
Verruckt   I think i see about an 1/8" of bondo in that third...   Nov 4 2005, 05:13 PM
boboli914@att.net   Yes it is serious. If you can weld and read it can...   Nov 4 2005, 05:30 PM
bender     Nov 4 2005, 06:02 PM
bender     Nov 5 2005, 04:12 PM
bender   the chassis stiffening kit   Nov 5 2005, 04:17 PM
McMark   You have a significant job in front of you. If ca...   Nov 5 2005, 04:17 PM
bender   the clamshell   Nov 5 2005, 04:17 PM
McMark   The chassis stiff kit get attached farther back th...   Nov 5 2005, 04:19 PM
bender     Nov 5 2005, 04:40 PM
sean_v8_914   there is a 914 club member that posted detail pics...   Nov 5 2005, 04:54 PM
grasshopper   http://www.914world.c...   Nov 7 2005, 05:05 PM
Bleyseng   I hope you got that car for free as its gone IMHO ...   Nov 7 2005, 05:30 PM
Verruckt   I agree with Bleyseng. Unless you are super good w...   Nov 7 2005, 05:41 PM
bender   <...   Nov 7 2005, 05:52 PM
bender   the kit..   Nov 7 2005, 05:55 PM
bender   more   Nov 7 2005, 05:56 PM
Verruckt     Nov 7 2005, 06:00 PM
bender   <...   Nov 7 2005, 06:40 PM
Rider914   My dad use to say he could fix it with one wing nu...   Nov 7 2005, 06:44 PM
bender   guys just a question what the cost of the body wor...   Nov 7 2005, 09:32 PM
Verruckt     Nov 7 2005, 09:36 PM
bender   <...   Nov 7 2005, 10:06 PM
Brando   That car is beyond my patience level... and i...   Nov 7 2005, 10:38 PM
r_towle   2 clamshell kits both halves of the floor boards r...   Nov 7 2005, 11:48 PM
9146986   I'd say it would cost around $4500 to fix...   Nov 8 2005, 08:04 AM
bender     Nov 8 2005, 09:49 AM
Bleyseng   Its your time and money.....do what you want. The ...   Nov 8 2005, 09:56 AM
Joe Ricard   WTF is a "rocket panel" Rocker panel or inner / ...   Nov 8 2005, 10:41 AM
bender   <...   Nov 8 2005, 11:03 AM
r_towle   guys, there is no such thing as a rust free chassi...   Nov 8 2005, 11:34 AM
Bleyseng   Locally, we have cars come up in the 1500-3000 ran...   Nov 8 2005, 03:16 PM
bondo   <...   Nov 8 2005, 03:31 PM
Bleyseng   Once the chassis starts to rust that bad its rusti...   Nov 8 2005, 04:45 PM
SirAndy   <...   Nov 8 2005, 04:59 PM
bondo     Nov 8 2005, 05:16 PM
bender     Nov 8 2005, 05:19 PM
bondo     Nov 8 2005, 05:30 PM
lapuwali   You need to start looking at Craigslist. There ar...   Nov 8 2005, 05:32 PM
bondo   Oh, and replacement panels (used) for most of the ...   Nov 8 2005, 05:37 PM
bender   <...   Nov 8 2005, 06:03 PM
bender     Nov 8 2005, 06:15 PM
rdauenhauer   Craigslist and other want adds are littered with "...   Nov 8 2005, 06:23 PM
Rouser     Nov 8 2005, 06:23 PM
TROJANMAN   some one had a roller for sale in cali recently. ...   Nov 8 2005, 06:34 PM
r_towle     Nov 8 2005, 07:03 PM
bender   guys i got pictures from the engine area, what do ...   Nov 9 2005, 10:02 PM
bender   more....   Nov 9 2005, 10:03 PM
bender   more..   Nov 9 2005, 10:04 PM
bender   and more..   Nov 9 2005, 10:04 PM
bender   the passenger side   Nov 9 2005, 10:06 PM
bender   more pass side   Nov 9 2005, 10:07 PM
bender   last one what do u think guys? i saw that in the f...   Nov 9 2005, 10:08 PM
McMark   It's definitely fixable from a technical point...   Nov 9 2005, 10:16 PM
brant   bender, its not that its impossible... but I ver...   Nov 9 2005, 10:55 PM
TROJANMAN   AA CRAP those pics look like one of the AA jewels...   Nov 9 2005, 11:06 PM
SirAndy     Nov 10 2005, 02:08 AM
sgomes   I'll add one note of caution. That car is so ...   Nov 10 2005, 08:15 AM
bender   guys thanks alot u far to kind realy   Nov 10 2005, 03:27 PM
McMark   No the clamshell is only about %65 of the issue. ...   Nov 10 2005, 03:34 PM
Bleyseng   You still have to fix the rest of the rust in the ...   Nov 10 2005, 03:39 PM
Andyrew   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-2-113159...   Nov 10 2005, 03:43 PM
brant     Nov 10 2005, 03:55 PM
rhcb914   Hi Bender, I don't know what your budget is ...   Nov 10 2005, 04:04 PM
brant   Rob, that car sounds sweet! and bender, the 1...   Nov 10 2005, 04:46 PM
Rouser     Nov 10 2005, 04:57 PM
bender   guys im about to abond my 914 http:...   Nov 10 2005, 10:42 PM
bender     Nov 11 2005, 03:52 PM
McMark   The factory claimed 90. But, regardless of the nu...   Nov 11 2005, 04:19 PM


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