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$5000 type IV or $5000 Subaru conversion?
$5000 type IV or $5000 Subaru conversion?
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TonyAKAVW
post Dec 20 2005, 05:46 PM
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There has been a lot of talk recently about affordable engine upgrades for the 914, namely larger displacement Type IV engines and Subaru conversions.

It looks as though a Type IV with 125 HP will cost about $5000 to do. It also looks like a Subaru conversion, using the Renegade kit (or a DIY conversion) will run somewhere around the same price for 165-180 HP (or more with a turbo engine).

So the poll question is if you had $5000 to spend on an upgrade for your 914, would you rather have a Type IV or a Subaru conversion?

As far as I know, no one yet offers a complete drop-in solution for the Subaru conversion, whereas a Type IV can be purchased and dropped in with little effort.

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post Dec 20 2005, 07:29 PM
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My answer seems to fluctuate from day to day. Today it happened to be T-IV, but watch me talk myself into changing my mind.

Both will deliver good mileage, but the Suby could take a taller 5th because it doesn't require RPM for cooling. Factory EFI and modern engine tech will reduce the maintenance. I never regret having more HP on tap... Yep, Suby's the answer.

But the 914 is a classic and the T-IV keeps the all the stock accessories, any good example should be kept "original". Maybe T-IV is the right way to go...

On the other hand, have you guys seen that burnout video? Hmmm, I guess I don't know after all... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

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TonyAKAVW   High output Type IV or Subaru   Dec 20 2005, 05:46 PM
r_towle   Talkto Mark about building you a type IV...then pu...   Dec 20 2005, 05:50 PM
grasshopper   i vote for suby power!!   Dec 20 2005, 06:12 PM
Rand   If I go through all the work of a water-cooled eng...   Dec 20 2005, 06:13 PM
bmcwilli   I vote for the T-IV. It's just simpler, and I...   Dec 20 2005, 06:15 PM
TonyAKAVW  
  Dec 20 2005, 06:18 PM
IanStott   I'm for keeping my 914 type 4 powered. I think...   Dec 20 2005, 06:20 PM
porsha916   I am doing a BOP 215V8 conversion, and I am thinki...   Dec 20 2005, 06:29 PM
Rand  
  Dec 20 2005, 06:40 PM
ewdysar   My answer seems to fluctuate from day to day. Tod...   Dec 20 2005, 07:29 PM
Jake Raby   How many ways can this question be asked??????   Dec 20 2005, 07:37 PM
Rand   I too enjoyed the burnout video, and I love the id...   Dec 20 2005, 07:45 PM
Jake Raby   Gimme 2 months.... I have a true beast to unleash ...   Dec 20 2005, 07:50 PM
Aaron Cox   heart and soul of a 914..is an aircooled beast....   Dec 20 2005, 08:38 PM
race914   I'm not sure this is important in your decisio...   Dec 20 2005, 08:47 PM
porschecb   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Dec 20 2005, 09:58 PM
dmenche914   My 914 IS my modern car! My triumph although ...   Dec 20 2005, 10:56 PM
Jake Raby   My 912E is my modern car.... The old models go all...   Dec 20 2005, 11:17 PM
bd1308   someday when i'm able to afford a pimped out 2...   Dec 20 2005, 11:23 PM
fiid  
  Dec 21 2005, 01:35 AM
Vacca Rabite   Well, I drive a 2004 subaru as my daily driver. P...   Dec 21 2005, 09:11 AM
tat2dphreak   as much as I love the purity of the TIV, if I had ...   Dec 21 2005, 09:56 AM
jhadler   It really all depends on what you want the power f...   Dec 21 2005, 10:10 AM
Brett W   For the novelty value only, I would keep a 914 air...   Dec 21 2005, 10:11 AM
fiid   <...   Dec 21 2005, 10:34 AM
tat2dphreak   good points, I was actually looking at reliability...   Dec 21 2005, 11:13 AM
TonyAKAVW  
  Dec 21 2005, 11:18 AM
Vacca Rabite   <...   Dec 21 2005, 11:30 AM
WRX914   Well, I have driven the "burn out car" several tim...   Dec 21 2005, 12:18 PM
Andyrew   Heck, it only took me 1500 to do a sbc conversion....   Dec 21 2005, 01:02 PM
JmuRiz   Why not just do what I want to do: in a 914 keep i...   Dec 21 2005, 01:31 PM
jhadler   The competition aspect... Yes, there are a lot of...   Dec 21 2005, 01:35 PM
fiid   What does D-mod look like? My motor is just shy o...   Dec 21 2005, 01:58 PM
rdauenhauer   If you give renegade a car a chk for $5K , oh...   Dec 21 2005, 02:01 PM
jhadler     Dec 21 2005, 02:06 PM
Brett W   I am well aware of what these motors make in stock...   Dec 21 2005, 03:15 PM
fiid   <...   Dec 21 2005, 04:16 PM
jhadler   Yep. SCCA has a place for pretty much everything u...   Dec 21 2005, 04:23 PM
Vacca Rabite   Hi Brett, I'm not flaming you, but I am disagr...   Dec 21 2005, 06:03 PM
ewdysar  
  Dec 21 2005, 08:41 PM
Mueller   I'm sorry(?), but I had to vote for the dispos...   Dec 21 2005, 09:00 PM
tracks914   What would it cost to drop a 2.4 T E or S into the...   Dec 21 2005, 09:35 PM
Aaron Cox  
  Dec 21 2005, 11:14 PM
jhadler     Dec 21 2005, 11:30 PM
jhadler   I think a differentiation needs to be made in this...   Dec 21 2005, 11:32 PM
smooth_eddy  
  Dec 22 2005, 12:11 AM
SirAndy   <...   Dec 22 2005, 12:20 AM
TonyAKAVW   $7500 is certainly a possibility for a subaru...   Dec 22 2005, 12:38 AM
anthony   <...   Dec 22 2005, 11:35 AM
andys   Tony, I think that you should perhaps decide on w...   Dec 22 2005, 11:41 AM
Rand  
  Dec 22 2005, 11:41 AM
TonyAKAVW   The original poll question was based mostly on the...   Dec 22 2005, 12:09 PM
jhadler   I'm still highly sceptical that an engine moun...   Dec 22 2005, 12:12 PM
Rand   Tony's conversion thread reveals some impressi...   Dec 22 2005, 12:28 PM
TonyAKAVW   Scott Thacher has proved that the engine bay radia...   Dec 22 2005, 12:43 PM
tat2dphreak  
  Dec 23 2005, 01:34 AM
TonyAKAVW  
  Dec 23 2005, 02:21 AM
Crazyhippy     Dec 23 2005, 03:23 AM
Crazyhippy   I just re-read what i wrote, and dont want to come...   Dec 23 2005, 03:36 AM
rdauenhauer  
  Dec 23 2005, 10:48 AM
Brando   My big-power type 4 was right at $5k so far. ...   Dec 23 2005, 11:58 AM
anthony   <...   Dec 23 2005, 01:37 PM
TonyAKAVW   The time to complete a Subaru conversion depends o...   Dec 23 2005, 01:55 PM
trekkor  
  Dec 23 2005, 02:23 PM
McMark   I think the time it takes to do an engine swap sta...   Dec 23 2005, 02:40 PM
anthony  
  Dec 23 2005, 02:41 PM
TonyAKAVW  
  Dec 23 2005, 02:44 PM
trekkor   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/htm...   Dec 23 2005, 02:48 PM
TonyAKAVW  
  Dec 23 2005, 03:06 PM
Andyrew   As far as time.. I did my v8 in 3 months of weeken...   Dec 23 2005, 03:41 PM
grantsfo   Maybe I'm spoiled by seeing very nice Subi con...   Jan 2 2007, 03:54 PM
Mueller   Maybe I'm spoiled by seeing very nice Subi co...   Jan 3 2007, 01:55 AM
Paul Illick   as Subaru conversions get more popular, trust me,...   Jan 3 2007, 07:16 AM
grantsfo   [quote name='grantsfo' post='841401' date='Jan 2 ...   Jan 3 2007, 10:16 AM
JPB   Its all about application, time and money. All th...   Jan 2 2007, 05:59 PM
Jake Raby   I believe that its a choice thats largely impacted...   Jan 3 2007, 07:57 AM
Paul Illick   Most of these people have a VW/ Aircooled heritag...   Jan 3 2007, 10:15 AM
DNHunt   I don't believe there is a right or wrong answ...   Jan 3 2007, 08:15 AM
scott thacher   do i even need to answer ;) ps i think i could d...   Jan 3 2007, 08:43 PM
Crazyhippy   I think 40 hrs is realistic. wiring, intake fab, e...   Jan 3 2007, 10:31 PM
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