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> ignitor II, Pertronics fixes burnout problem?
swl
post Dec 28 2005, 07:31 AM
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I've read a number of threads here about the pertronics module and how the 'aw shit' factor comes in. Looks like they have listened.
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Senses incorrectly wired Ignitor II or a “key left on” condition and shuts down the system protecting the coil and other components from damage.

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post Dec 28 2005, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (swl @ Dec 28 2005, 08:57 AM)
Do you think all this dwell control and exta goodies of the II will actually accomplish anything or is it just bling? I'm talking about a stock engine not a Raby screamer. The good Cap'ns dry wit makes sense - properly maintained points have worked for 30 years. I'm considering the pertronix just to make maintenance easier and ensure that starts are reliable.

It's really hard to say. Points are crude, but they're effective. If they're treated well, they can last for well over 20,000 miles, meaning you'd have to adjust the valves 3-4 times between points replacement, so the maintenance isn't really improved all that much. On a conservatively tuned engine, you'd probably not notice the difference between new-ish points and any Pertronix.

The whole "high precision" thing can be taken too far. I recently checked the timing on my 912, with a fresh distributor and fresh points. At idle, the timing was pretty rock solid. By 4000rpm (normal cruising speed on this engine), the spark scatter was so bad the timing mark was blurry and actual timing was somewhere in a 5-8 degree window from event to event. Pretty much puts paid to the whole idea of getting timing set within one degree.

I'd venture that unless you're going all the way to multi-coil crank-triggered ignition, the differences are too small to bother with on most street engines between one type of ignition and another. Being able to accurately keep the timing within a degree and get the coil charge exactly right, etc., is no doubt useful when you're building a very high performance engine, as you can tune the thing a lot closer to the point of blowing up w/o crossing that line. On a mild daily driver, however, the difference is a lot less important.
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swl   ignitor II   Dec 28 2005, 07:31 AM
blitZ   I have a Pertronics module Could you expand on t...   Dec 28 2005, 08:05 AM
bd1308   maybe I can help here. A pertronix works very wel...   Dec 28 2005, 08:11 AM
Demick   Ignitor II has been out for many years. But it wa...   Dec 28 2005, 09:15 AM
Demick   Looks like they do! Ignitor II for Bosch   Dec 28 2005, 09:21 AM
Bleyseng   Great! now I will buy the 4th one. Every time ...   Dec 28 2005, 09:27 AM
Cap'n Krusty   All this improvement after only 30 years? Their r...   Dec 28 2005, 09:50 AM
lapuwali   The II also has dwell control, which senses the co...   Dec 28 2005, 10:12 AM
swl   Do you think all this dwell control and exta goodi...   Dec 28 2005, 10:57 AM
MarkV   I have a Ignitor II on my car. The dwell adjust th...   Dec 28 2005, 11:16 AM
Cap'n Krusty     Dec 28 2005, 11:18 AM
MarkV   The Ignitor II senses current levels in the coil a...   Dec 28 2005, 11:29 AM
lapuwali     Dec 28 2005, 11:36 AM
swl     Dec 28 2005, 02:09 PM
Jake Raby   Increased spark accuracy (timing) as well as advan...   Dec 28 2005, 02:26 PM
lapuwali   IMHO, those DIS kits are nearly worthless. They s...   Dec 28 2005, 02:29 PM
swl   Damn I love this place! More accumulated know...   Dec 28 2005, 03:15 PM
Jake Raby   "050" is the same body as the 009, same internals ...   Dec 28 2005, 03:55 PM
solex   Is is possible to upgrade the stock DJET with a Ma...   Dec 28 2005, 04:12 PM
lapuwali   Finding an 050 isn't all that easy, either. Y...   Dec 28 2005, 04:13 PM
Jake Raby   You can feel the differences in the better advance...   Dec 28 2005, 04:19 PM
lapuwali   Advance curve, yes. But can you FEEL the differen...   Dec 28 2005, 04:24 PM
anthony   I can see and feel the difference between fresh po...   Dec 28 2005, 04:29 PM
Jake Raby   And you can see the difference (on a CHT gauge) wh...   Dec 28 2005, 04:39 PM
swl   Sorry guys. I have a bit of newbi-itis here. I...   Dec 28 2005, 04:49 PM
alpha434   what about the fireball??? that optical distribute...   Dec 28 2005, 05:09 PM
lapuwali   There IS a way to use a Mallory with "FI", just us...   Dec 28 2005, 05:21 PM
alpha434   wow. I never thought that i'd be happy to hav...   Dec 28 2005, 06:34 PM
lapuwali   ...   Dec 28 2005, 06:56 PM
alpha434   so the d-jet is better for performance unless you ...   Dec 28 2005, 07:45 PM
lapuwali   ...   Dec 28 2005, 07:56 PM
Gint   alpha34, we need to get you on our local email li...   Dec 28 2005, 08:40 PM
Jake Raby   L jet works fine with a Mallory....   Dec 28 2005, 10:13 PM
Air_Cooled_Nut   I'm using the DIS-IX in my VW Squareback. A ...   Dec 29 2005, 01:15 AM


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