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> Carbs on a completely stock 2.0L, does it work
DanT
post Dec 30 2005, 12:28 AM
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So there is a lot of difference of opinion.
With a totally stock 2L engine including ignition, cam etc
do carbs work effectively?
More noticeable power?
Drivability?
MPG?
Worth the hassle?

let the games begin! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)

Lets hear it.
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post Dec 30 2005, 08:19 PM
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I've thought about changing my 40 webers for Djet, but then again I REALY like carbs. Sure, they can be a total pain in the Arsch but so can anything else. I know carbs, that's what I have, and I like it.

Perhaps tuning webers is becoming a black art? Is that why a lot of people seem to hate them so?

Does anyone have hard data comparing a FI motor to a dual carbed one?

I know my 914 hauls ass when compared wilth my '72 type1. It also seems faster than a freind's old 1.8 914.

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Dan (Almaden Valley)   Carbs on a completely stock 2.0L   Dec 30 2005, 12:28 AM
McMark   Stock cam + carbs = http://www...   Dec 30 2005, 12:32 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Mark, That is exactly the information I have gott...   Dec 30 2005, 12:34 AM
Bleyseng   stock cam+ carbs= sucks more hp=not! mpg=not...   Dec 30 2005, 12:42 AM
McMark   I'll concede, that if you take a SERIOUS amoun...   Dec 30 2005, 12:43 AM
trekkor   Unless you don't have first hand experience, k...   Dec 30 2005, 12:45 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   What cam would you suggest in an otherwise stock 2...   Dec 30 2005, 12:46 AM
Bleyseng   Ask Jake as he has several cams for carbs. Depends...   Dec 30 2005, 12:48 AM
McMark     Dec 30 2005, 12:49 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   That was the general Idea Mark. Kind of like the 4...   Dec 30 2005, 12:53 AM
trekkor   Keep it cool, boys http://www.9...   Dec 30 2005, 12:57 AM
Bleyseng   I have first hand experience with 40 Dells on a st...   Dec 30 2005, 12:58 AM
McMark   Thinking more about Alberts 1.8 with carbs (40 IDF...   Dec 30 2005, 01:10 AM
trekkor   On a daily driver, yeah, it could be a bummer. My...   Dec 30 2005, 01:21 AM
SirAndy   stock engine + carbs = less power and much worse g...   Dec 30 2005, 01:35 AM
pfierb   My 73 2.0 had 40idfs installed by the PO ....it wa...   Dec 30 2005, 04:13 AM
Tom Perso   Ditch the stock FI, sell your carbs and buy a Mega...   Dec 30 2005, 07:23 AM
maf914   As usual, lot's of different opinions. So her...   Dec 30 2005, 08:04 AM
rhodyguy   what do you consider "less power and much worse mi...   Dec 30 2005, 09:09 AM
Joe Sharp   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Dec 30 2005, 09:20 AM
pfierb   ...   Dec 30 2005, 09:24 AM
trekkor   Not a 914, but an air-cooled 2110cc with a stock c...   Dec 30 2005, 09:33 AM
trekkor   "pfierb"- Comments like that only get people on th...   Dec 30 2005, 09:39 AM
rhodyguy   for heavens sakes http://ww...   Dec 30 2005, 09:48 AM
Brotherbob   Not stock , 1.8 , I will fire up TODAY. Original 1...   Dec 30 2005, 10:08 AM
rhodyguy   we boy racer LOSERS need some hats with a weber em...   Dec 30 2005, 10:13 AM
Joe Sharp   Having a carbed car that runs is much better than ...   Dec 30 2005, 10:35 AM
pfierb   Not trying to incite anyone nor am going to edit m...   Dec 30 2005, 11:24 AM
Carlitos Way   I'm working on a 2.0 carb conversion with stoc...   Dec 30 2005, 11:44 AM
SirAndy   carbs SUCK fi BLOWS there you go, i said it ... ...   Dec 30 2005, 12:01 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Thanks Andy http://www.914world....   Dec 30 2005, 12:06 PM
Bleyseng   http://...   Dec 30 2005, 05:56 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Thought you might like it Trekkor. Got the idea fr...   Dec 30 2005, 07:33 PM
trekkor  
  Dec 30 2005, 08:11 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Don't recall offhand. But I thought it sounde...   Dec 30 2005, 08:15 PM
Gearhead1432   I've thought about changing my 40 webers for D...   Dec 30 2005, 08:19 PM
trekkor   As usual, my standard offer of my complete D-jet s...   Dec 30 2005, 08:38 PM
Headrage   Never ran carbs on a /4 so I don't know, but i...   Dec 30 2005, 08:41 PM
trekkor   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Jan 1 2006, 07:33 PM
bd1308   progressives are awesome. there we go. b   Jan 1 2006, 07:54 PM
r_towle   I have a perfectly tuned FI system, its fine. BUT ...   Jan 1 2006, 08:51 PM
trekkor   It would be cool if someone had a very good runnin...   Jan 1 2006, 09:16 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   That is kind of what I was hoping to hear from som...   Jan 1 2006, 11:04 PM
Bleyseng   I think Jake has done this......
  Jan 2 2006, 12:02 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   You will have to have your clearance checked Trekk...   Jan 2 2006, 12:14 AM
ws91420   I have switched to carbs with a stock FI cam. The ...   Jan 2 2006, 12:14 AM
trekkor   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Jan 2 2006, 12:21 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   John's car is a 4 with carbs. But I know noth...   Jan 2 2006, 12:37 AM
trekkor   Competiton will have to wait. Sure, I'll run ...   Jan 2 2006, 12:50 AM
grantsfo   According to Albert he had stock cam on his 1.8 wi...   Jan 2 2006, 12:53 AM
trekkor   I can't remember... Both we're fast. A go...   Jan 2 2006, 01:07 AM
SirAndy     Jan 2 2006, 01:41 PM
McMark   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Jan 2 2006, 01:50 PM
anthony   Raby proved that EFI put out more horsepower than ...   Jan 2 2006, 02:08 PM
trekkor   As for the modern car argument. I won't get in...   Jan 2 2006, 06:04 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Modern EFI and 1974 EFI are two different animals ...   Jan 2 2006, 06:50 PM
Aaron Cox   lawrence's aub car is a carbd car with stock c...   Jan 2 2006, 06:56 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   That was the point of my initial query. do you ga...   Jan 2 2006, 06:59 PM
dmenche914   expereince with my freinds stock 1.7 was he had pr...   Jan 2 2006, 07:26 PM
MarkV   I think the only gain in the carbs vs Djet debate ...   Jan 2 2006, 07:56 PM
bd1308   well the deal with D-jet is that most systems are ...   Jan 2 2006, 08:04 PM
ws91420   ...   Jan 2 2006, 09:36 PM
Joe Sharp   Welby's piont is the only point for switching....   Jan 2 2006, 09:43 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Thanks for the replies. This is another one of tho...   Jan 2 2006, 11:10 PM
Jake Raby   Every engine is different..... Honestly I have tes...   Jan 3 2006, 09:18 AM
trekkor   Well there you have it... http:/...   Jan 3 2006, 01:15 PM
Gearhead1432   From what I recall, most wabers are jetted far too...   Jan 3 2006, 01:36 PM
trekkor   On pg #10 of Haynes, you can see the motors listed...   Jan 3 2006, 08:41 PM
Tom Perso   From what I remember, the carb'd motors did ha...   Jan 3 2006, 08:43 PM
Gearhead1432   I'm looking at the book. It looks like the EC ...   Jan 3 2006, 09:28 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Maybe that is the problem, folks are using too lar...   Jan 3 2006, 11:13 PM
Aaron Cox     Jan 5 2006, 07:38 PM
trekkor   It may be one of life's great mysteries   Jan 5 2006, 07:53 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   That was not the question. The question was do fa...   Jan 5 2006, 07:58 PM
Aaron Cox     Jan 5 2006, 09:59 PM
Bleyseng   Yep. they had domed 93mm pistons! Jake has a s...   Jan 5 2006, 11:28 PM
trekkor  
  Jan 5 2006, 11:37 PM
McMark   I bumped a thread on STF and Jake promised to use ...   Jan 6 2006, 12:07 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   And the answer is? Drumroll please.......   Jan 6 2006, 12:54 PM
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