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> Carbs on a completely stock 2.0L, does it work
DanT
post Dec 30 2005, 12:28 AM
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So there is a lot of difference of opinion.
With a totally stock 2L engine including ignition, cam etc
do carbs work effectively?
More noticeable power?
Drivability?
MPG?
Worth the hassle?

let the games begin! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/clap.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/boldblue.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/idea.gif)

Lets hear it.
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From what I recall, most wabers are jetted far too rich for smaller fours like a 1.7 up to a 2.0. You can bolt them on and they will run, it will just eat up fuel like it's going out of style.

When optimized I'm willing to bet you can get more power out of the carbs. The power band might be higher but that's okay with me. I like driving at 3.500rpm (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)

Oh yeah, Webers are eye candy too! For me Djet doesn't do very much. Now TPI, that is an awsome looking FI system.

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Dan (Almaden Valley)   Carbs on a completely stock 2.0L   Dec 30 2005, 12:28 AM
McMark   Stock cam + carbs = http://www...   Dec 30 2005, 12:32 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Mark, That is exactly the information I have gott...   Dec 30 2005, 12:34 AM
Bleyseng   stock cam+ carbs= sucks more hp=not! mpg=not...   Dec 30 2005, 12:42 AM
McMark   I'll concede, that if you take a SERIOUS amoun...   Dec 30 2005, 12:43 AM
trekkor   Unless you don't have first hand experience, k...   Dec 30 2005, 12:45 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   What cam would you suggest in an otherwise stock 2...   Dec 30 2005, 12:46 AM
Bleyseng   Ask Jake as he has several cams for carbs. Depends...   Dec 30 2005, 12:48 AM
McMark     Dec 30 2005, 12:49 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   That was the general Idea Mark. Kind of like the 4...   Dec 30 2005, 12:53 AM
trekkor   Keep it cool, boys http://www.9...   Dec 30 2005, 12:57 AM
Bleyseng   I have first hand experience with 40 Dells on a st...   Dec 30 2005, 12:58 AM
McMark   Thinking more about Alberts 1.8 with carbs (40 IDF...   Dec 30 2005, 01:10 AM
trekkor   On a daily driver, yeah, it could be a bummer. My...   Dec 30 2005, 01:21 AM
SirAndy   stock engine + carbs = less power and much worse g...   Dec 30 2005, 01:35 AM
pfierb   My 73 2.0 had 40idfs installed by the PO ....it wa...   Dec 30 2005, 04:13 AM
Tom Perso   Ditch the stock FI, sell your carbs and buy a Mega...   Dec 30 2005, 07:23 AM
maf914   As usual, lot's of different opinions. So her...   Dec 30 2005, 08:04 AM
rhodyguy   what do you consider "less power and much worse mi...   Dec 30 2005, 09:09 AM
Joe Sharp   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Dec 30 2005, 09:20 AM
pfierb   ...   Dec 30 2005, 09:24 AM
trekkor   Not a 914, but an air-cooled 2110cc with a stock c...   Dec 30 2005, 09:33 AM
trekkor   "pfierb"- Comments like that only get people on th...   Dec 30 2005, 09:39 AM
rhodyguy   for heavens sakes http://ww...   Dec 30 2005, 09:48 AM
Brotherbob   Not stock , 1.8 , I will fire up TODAY. Original 1...   Dec 30 2005, 10:08 AM
rhodyguy   we boy racer LOSERS need some hats with a weber em...   Dec 30 2005, 10:13 AM
Joe Sharp   Having a carbed car that runs is much better than ...   Dec 30 2005, 10:35 AM
pfierb   Not trying to incite anyone nor am going to edit m...   Dec 30 2005, 11:24 AM
Carlitos Way   I'm working on a 2.0 carb conversion with stoc...   Dec 30 2005, 11:44 AM
SirAndy   carbs SUCK fi BLOWS there you go, i said it ... ...   Dec 30 2005, 12:01 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Thanks Andy http://www.914world....   Dec 30 2005, 12:06 PM
Bleyseng   http://...   Dec 30 2005, 05:56 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Thought you might like it Trekkor. Got the idea fr...   Dec 30 2005, 07:33 PM
trekkor  
  Dec 30 2005, 08:11 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Don't recall offhand. But I thought it sounde...   Dec 30 2005, 08:15 PM
Gearhead1432   I've thought about changing my 40 webers for D...   Dec 30 2005, 08:19 PM
trekkor   As usual, my standard offer of my complete D-jet s...   Dec 30 2005, 08:38 PM
Headrage   Never ran carbs on a /4 so I don't know, but i...   Dec 30 2005, 08:41 PM
trekkor   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Jan 1 2006, 07:33 PM
bd1308   progressives are awesome. there we go. b   Jan 1 2006, 07:54 PM
r_towle   I have a perfectly tuned FI system, its fine. BUT ...   Jan 1 2006, 08:51 PM
trekkor   It would be cool if someone had a very good runnin...   Jan 1 2006, 09:16 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   That is kind of what I was hoping to hear from som...   Jan 1 2006, 11:04 PM
Bleyseng   I think Jake has done this......
  Jan 2 2006, 12:02 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   You will have to have your clearance checked Trekk...   Jan 2 2006, 12:14 AM
ws91420   I have switched to carbs with a stock FI cam. The ...   Jan 2 2006, 12:14 AM
trekkor   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/e...   Jan 2 2006, 12:21 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   John's car is a 4 with carbs. But I know noth...   Jan 2 2006, 12:37 AM
trekkor   Competiton will have to wait. Sure, I'll run ...   Jan 2 2006, 12:50 AM
grantsfo   According to Albert he had stock cam on his 1.8 wi...   Jan 2 2006, 12:53 AM
trekkor   I can't remember... Both we're fast. A go...   Jan 2 2006, 01:07 AM
SirAndy     Jan 2 2006, 01:41 PM
McMark   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Jan 2 2006, 01:50 PM
anthony   Raby proved that EFI put out more horsepower than ...   Jan 2 2006, 02:08 PM
trekkor   As for the modern car argument. I won't get in...   Jan 2 2006, 06:04 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Modern EFI and 1974 EFI are two different animals ...   Jan 2 2006, 06:50 PM
Aaron Cox   lawrence's aub car is a carbd car with stock c...   Jan 2 2006, 06:56 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   That was the point of my initial query. do you ga...   Jan 2 2006, 06:59 PM
dmenche914   expereince with my freinds stock 1.7 was he had pr...   Jan 2 2006, 07:26 PM
MarkV   I think the only gain in the carbs vs Djet debate ...   Jan 2 2006, 07:56 PM
bd1308   well the deal with D-jet is that most systems are ...   Jan 2 2006, 08:04 PM
ws91420   ...   Jan 2 2006, 09:36 PM
Joe Sharp   Welby's piont is the only point for switching....   Jan 2 2006, 09:43 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Thanks for the replies. This is another one of tho...   Jan 2 2006, 11:10 PM
Jake Raby   Every engine is different..... Honestly I have tes...   Jan 3 2006, 09:18 AM
trekkor   Well there you have it... http:/...   Jan 3 2006, 01:15 PM
Gearhead1432   From what I recall, most wabers are jetted far too...   Jan 3 2006, 01:36 PM
trekkor   On pg #10 of Haynes, you can see the motors listed...   Jan 3 2006, 08:41 PM
Tom Perso   From what I remember, the carb'd motors did ha...   Jan 3 2006, 08:43 PM
Gearhead1432   I'm looking at the book. It looks like the EC ...   Jan 3 2006, 09:28 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   Maybe that is the problem, folks are using too lar...   Jan 3 2006, 11:13 PM
Aaron Cox     Jan 5 2006, 07:38 PM
trekkor   It may be one of life's great mysteries   Jan 5 2006, 07:53 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   That was not the question. The question was do fa...   Jan 5 2006, 07:58 PM
Aaron Cox     Jan 5 2006, 09:59 PM
Bleyseng   Yep. they had domed 93mm pistons! Jake has a s...   Jan 5 2006, 11:28 PM
trekkor  
  Jan 5 2006, 11:37 PM
McMark   I bumped a thread on STF and Jake promised to use ...   Jan 6 2006, 12:07 AM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   And the answer is? Drumroll please.......   Jan 6 2006, 12:54 PM
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