OT: State of licensing in the US, How hard is it where you live? Options

[lapuwali]

Howard's thread about the consequences of not teaching teens how to drive got me wondering.

I went through the whole driver training ritual in 1980, so I have no idea what the current state of driver training is in the US. Texas (where I learned) had a pretty good program. Run in the high school, mandatory, with both driving classes, textbook classes, and an interesting interactive movie.

I'm told that most high schools don't have driver's ed anymore, due to cost-cutting. Is this true nationwide, or only here in California? Is it even true in all of California? I see "Student Driver" cars from time to time (saw one this morning), and I'm sure it's not mandatory. I presume this is strictly a private, voluntary thing?

I also know Europe is much stricter than here. I'm familiar with the UK testing system, how's the system in Germany (Andy?), or Austria (Gustl?), or the Netherlands (Yaroooon?).

Getting anyone to pay for better training in the US is probably politically impossible, though it strikes me that perhaps having the insurance companies help out here by offering a substantial discount from the usual outrageous teen driver rates for those teens who complete an accredited course sounds sensible to me.

[Hawktel]

In Oregon, '87.

I took the test. you had to get 75 out of 100 points on the driving. And pass the written and you was considered safe for the road. We didn't have to have any instruction you that was manditory.

I'd been driving for 2 years already, Mostly in my rural area. My grand pa owned a orchard, I learned to drive his old John Deer when I was 10.

I did the test. I california'ed a stop sign, and he took 25 points for that. When we got to the DMV, he opened the car door and checked where I was in the lines, before he passed me.