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			  I just got a millermatic 175 welder. 230v, 19.5 amps. I'm going to make an extension cord for it and was wondering what guage wire I should use. Is 12ga enough? (going about 30 feet, just enough to get all the way around the garage, and into the driveway a bit) 
			
			
					
		Also, the dryer outlet is neutral grounded. Should I use it as is or add a second outlet with a real ground?  | 
	
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 1. Depends on the minimum voltage the device with correctly operate under peak and continuous operating current. Generally you want less than a 10% voltage drop, but for a welder I'd keep it under 5% so you don't have problems with the wire feed motor at max. peak amps. Use a wire gauge chart such as this one to size the wire. 2. Possibly because 25-30 amp single-phase receptacles are not as common for household use. More people probably have dryer outlets close to the garage. You could go down to a smaller amp plug rated higher than the max. input amps on the welder, but you'd still have to buy the matching receptacle. And it shouldn't be a standard plug used for 115V equipment even though they exist with 20 amp ratings.  | 
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 bondo   OT: 230v welder wiring   Mar 23 2005, 04:23 PM
 
 Series9   Neutral and ground are exactly the same.
Use 3 co...   Mar 23 2005, 04:30 PM
 
 Root_Werks   My wife's Dad has a really nice welder, he had...   Mar 23 2005, 04:31 PM
 
 Travis Neff   I think you want the 8 gauge wire for that, I used...   Mar 23 2005, 04:32 PM
 
 Twystd1   Note: Ground and Neutral are NOT the same thing.
...   Mar 23 2005, 05:01 PM
 
 Travis Neff   So your suggestion of a separate ground, where the...   Mar 23 2005, 05:16 PM
 
 Series9   <...   Mar 23 2005, 05:28 PM
 
 bondo   Hmm, here is my understanding of neutral grounding...   Mar 23 2005, 05:34 PM
 
 Series9      Mar 23 2005, 05:42 PM
 
 Travis Neff   If the welder has two hot leads and a neutral with...   Mar 23 2005, 05:54 PM
 
 bondo      Mar 23 2005, 06:49 PM
 
 bondo   I just checked the circuit diagram for the welder....   Mar 23 2005, 07:00 PM
 
 Series9      Mar 23 2005, 07:28 PM
 
 Travis Neff   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Mar 23 2005, 08:06 PM
 
 bondo   I understand that it will work fine if I just wire...   Mar 23 2005, 08:19 PM
 
 Series9      Mar 23 2005, 10:14 PM
 
 jonwatts   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/ht...   Jan 16 2006, 01:51 AM
 
 sgomes   I've got an idea.  Why don't you just buy ...   Jan 16 2006, 07:50 AM
 
 sj914   That extension cord would work, but I think the pr...   Jan 16 2006, 08:42 AM
 
 jonwatts      Jan 16 2006, 09:29 AM
 
 r_towle   the industry has changed from 3 wire to four wire....   Jan 16 2006, 10:58 AM
 
 jd74914   <...   Jan 16 2006, 11:27 AM
 
 fiid   Nothing electrical here, but for MIG sets, please ...   Jan 16 2006, 11:28 AM
 
 jonwatts   <...   Jan 16 2006, 11:55 AM
 
 914GT   I know my local home depot has 4-conductor #6 flex...   Jan 16 2006, 12:17 PM
 
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