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> 2-rotary Mazda engine swap, smartasses need not apply
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post Feb 9 2006, 09:49 PM
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I migth have the opportinity to get a free rotary engine (1.3L) 2-rotor motor. Apex seals are good from what I hear, which is good.

There is exactly one member here that has done this, could you pm me or something....?

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post Feb 10 2006, 02:57 PM
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I owned two rotary cars: an '85 RX-7 GSL-SE (13B) and an '87 RX-7 Turbo. Both got about 18mpg in daily driving, with as much as 24mpg on gentle highway drives. Flogged on a good road, mileage would often drop to as little as 10mpg. This would probably improve a bit on a 914, since you're dragging around about 300-400lbs less weight.

The OEM control systems are fiendishly complex, with a zillion vacuum hoses to leak, and solenoid valves to break. You'd want to do a custom injection setup. Weber manifolds are available, and you could bolt on a TWM throttle body. I know there are manifolds for DCOEs and big Holley carbs, but I'd use an IDF manifold if one was available, with an IDF-style throttle body. The DCOE manifolds wrap around the top of the engine, and, like the OEM injection stuff, make it difficult to impossible to reach the OEM oil injection stuff, which often leaks. Unless you want to pre-mix all your gas, you really want to keep the oil injection.

The earlier engines used a distributor, or a fake distributor that triggered multiple coils. These would be easier to adapt to DIY EFI than the later systems.

They generate enormous heat and sky-high exhaust temps, so a rear-mounted radiator would be unlikely to work. You'd need as much radiator area as a V8.

They also sound NASTY (not in a good way) w/o very good muffling, and require LOTS of muffler volume to kill the noise w/o also killing the power. However, because of all of that, they do turbocharge very well. The early factory Turbos had lots of lag, but the later variable inlet turbos were pretty good. The turbo kills the worst of the noise, so you can use a normal muffler after them.

For their size and weight, they can be made to produce big power. Their torque characteristics would be a pretty good match for a 901, too.
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bd1308   2-rotary Mazda engine swap   Feb 9 2006, 09:49 PM
bondo   Focus, man... focus. http://www.91...   Feb 9 2006, 09:50 PM
Mueller   you do know the adapter kit is $600+ ??? wor...   Feb 9 2006, 09:53 PM
Aaron Cox   do a search. wankel himself had a 914 rotary.... ...   Feb 9 2006, 09:54 PM
Aaron Cox   bingo the original wankel rotary 914   Feb 9 2006, 09:57 PM
Aaron Cox   check out the radiator intake http://www.oct.at/wo...   Feb 9 2006, 09:59 PM
tesserra   I looked at one a while back. The seller/builder w...   Feb 9 2006, 10:00 PM
Andyrew   Twould be cool! but I wouldnt like the no tq b...   Feb 9 2006, 10:00 PM
Mueller   <...   Feb 9 2006, 10:02 PM
TimT   We just dynoed an RX7 N/A two rotor. 210 hp @ 105...   Feb 9 2006, 10:02 PM
Rand   Just in case you haven't seen it, this rotary ...   Feb 9 2006, 10:10 PM
Brett W   Our peripheral port 13B makes north of 300 at the ...   Feb 9 2006, 10:20 PM
bd1308     Feb 9 2006, 10:21 PM
bd1308     Feb 9 2006, 10:22 PM
reverie   Britt, don't waste your time. I have an RX-7 ...   Feb 9 2006, 10:27 PM
Rotary'14   Since I'm the one person active on this board ...   Feb 9 2006, 10:36 PM
grantsfo   I owned a 74 RX2 in high school. It Once you get...   Feb 9 2006, 10:41 PM
bd1308   I get enough oil smoke in the cabin to giev me lun...   Feb 9 2006, 10:42 PM
Aaron Cox     Feb 9 2006, 10:43 PM
bd1308   hmm... might have to make a snorkel to direct the...   Feb 9 2006, 10:45 PM
Aaron Cox   see if alpha can make you a set of titanium rotors...   Feb 9 2006, 10:46 PM
J P Stein   Sorry, dood. Smartasses here are a fact of life. A...   Feb 9 2006, 10:46 PM
bd1308   yeah http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Feb 9 2006, 10:47 PM
Rotary'14   I checked my PMss,, and regarding mileage. I drov...   Feb 9 2006, 10:52 PM
bd1308   if you're askin me, its from some 92 RX-7 or s...   Feb 9 2006, 11:04 PM
messix   it seems that for the power and rpm available the ...   Feb 9 2006, 11:19 PM
reverie   As far as I know, there's no such thing as a ...   Feb 9 2006, 11:19 PM
bd1308   i dunno what year it was..... it was yellow with ...   Feb 9 2006, 11:21 PM
Rotary'14   You should look into building a megasquirt. The r...   Feb 9 2006, 11:31 PM
rhodyguy   don't worry rog. we'll always wait for you...   Feb 10 2006, 12:08 AM
soloracer   Welcome aboard! I think that getting rid of h...   Feb 10 2006, 01:24 AM
Tom Perso   Awww... Look at the cute little motor... http://www.914world...   Feb 10 2006, 08:31 AM
Rotary'14     Feb 10 2006, 09:20 AM
reverie   Big ports? http://www.914world.com/...   Feb 10 2006, 01:57 PM
jhadler   Nice idea... Some gotcha's though. 1) Rotary...   Feb 10 2006, 03:35 PM
"7"   Here's a website that offers a kit. Have fun. ...   Feb 10 2006, 03:50 PM
morphenspectra   Guy in yakima wash has one. Cooling was his bigges...   Feb 10 2006, 07:44 PM
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pek771   I have a Kennedy adapter Mazda to VW, flywheel and...   Feb 10 2006, 08:58 PM


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