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> Anyone have an opinion re: 914/Subaru conversions?, i.e. what are the pros/cons
carreraguy
post Feb 11 2006, 09:39 PM
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Looking for more hp and was considering the Suby conversion route after seing one at last year's German Autofest in Ventura. IF I was to pull the trigger, I won't be doing it myself - looking at a turnkey solution. Aside from the cost, what are the pros/cons? i.e definitely NARP.

Seems to me that a 914 thta has an engine that is lighter than a stock 2liter engine but has 240-300 hp (depending on tuning, type engine etc.) would be a blast to drive assuming you had the right suspension, brakes, wheels/tires etc.
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post Feb 12 2006, 01:06 PM
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Hey Tom,

I cannot think of too many negative things about the conversion except for perhaps the PCA issue:

auto-x: "fun run" class only, no points or "official" time

time trails: not allowed

not that big of deal to some folks, there are plenty of run groups that allow pretty much anything for track events (not racing, just having fun), same for auto-x, SCCA does not care, you'll just be in a goofy class but if all you want to do is wring out the car once in a while, who cares what class you are in, as long as you can arrive and flog the car and have fun.

As a daily driver or weekend cruiser, I think the Suby (or any well done conversion) is a great idea...the key factors (at least for me) being that it must have at least 75% more HP and be dead-on reliable with no overheating issues, or half@ss wiring or whatever that might distract from enjoying the car.

I didn't get into a 914 (or my 911 for that matter) because of them being aircooled, it just happened to be the engine that came with them (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif)

Do I like aircooled engines? Yes, but I like almost all engines, steam, stirling, diesel, you name it (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/screwy.gif)

When you are flying down a country lane, feeling the G's, does it really matter what is propelling you forward and out of each corner? As long as you can get from point A to point B, that is the important thing, if one method of thrust get's you there a little quicker or with more piece of mind, what is wrong with that??

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carreraguy   Anyone have an opinion re: 914/Subaru conversions?   Feb 11 2006, 09:39 PM
d914   if not looking at "budget build" I think this is a...   Feb 11 2006, 09:53 PM
lapuwali   The chief downside is that if you intend to AX or ...   Feb 11 2006, 10:09 PM
anthony   To me the downsides are: not aircooled not vintag...   Feb 11 2006, 10:13 PM
neo914-6   Get a quote from Renegade Hybrids, they do turn-ke...   Feb 11 2006, 10:20 PM
TonyAKAVW   Well, my perspective on this is definitely a littl...   Feb 11 2006, 11:08 PM
carreraguy   Thanks guys, good input! I'm going to hav...   Feb 12 2006, 01:32 AM
Kerrys914   Not sure but can you get a HIGH HP Jake Engine for...   Feb 12 2006, 08:41 AM
tat2dphreak   for the cost of a turnkey, you may be able to find...   Feb 12 2006, 09:23 AM
mrdezyne   My final deciding factor for doing my suby swap wa...   Feb 12 2006, 10:48 AM
anthony   Speaking of Lotus, Tom have you considered an Elis...   Feb 12 2006, 10:56 AM
Porcharu   I am obviously a little baised but what the heck. ...   Feb 12 2006, 12:41 PM
Mueller   Hey Tom, I cannot think of too many negative thin...   Feb 12 2006, 01:06 PM
grantsfo   ...   Feb 12 2006, 01:23 PM
carreraguy   Thanks all for the good feedback. I did think abo...   Feb 12 2006, 10:03 PM
McMark   From what it sounds like, a 240-300 hp subaru moto...   Feb 12 2006, 10:13 PM
trekkor     Feb 12 2006, 10:34 PM
Porcharu     Feb 12 2006, 11:18 PM
neo914-6   ...   Feb 13 2006, 02:32 AM
cbenitah   Interesting reading... I would like a figure.. D...   Feb 13 2006, 03:01 AM
Andyrew   www.rennegadehybrids.com they primarily do v8...   Feb 13 2006, 03:12 AM
mrdezyne   ...   Feb 13 2006, 10:46 AM
WRX914   I am in the middle of an extensive rebuild, but I ...   Feb 13 2006, 10:59 AM
mrdezyne   I guess thats where I saved a bundle, you have to ...   Feb 13 2006, 11:17 AM
MattR   My two cents, You own a 914 for the feel of it, n...   Feb 13 2006, 11:24 AM
mrdezyne   Go here and check out the video, this is a great r...   Feb 13 2006, 11:27 AM
Mueller     Feb 13 2006, 11:29 AM
Porcharu     Feb 13 2006, 12:52 PM
trekkor   I enjoyed that video! If I didn't find my...   Feb 13 2006, 01:18 PM
McMark   ...   Feb 13 2006, 01:24 PM
Mueller     Feb 13 2006, 01:31 PM
alpha434     Feb 13 2006, 01:47 PM
Crazyhippy     Feb 13 2006, 01:52 PM
TonyAKAVW   If someone were set up with the right tools and pl...   Feb 13 2006, 01:59 PM
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Porcharu   ...   Feb 13 2006, 02:35 PM
carreraguy   http://www.914world.com/bbs2...   Feb 13 2006, 02:50 PM
914rrr   Speaking of "disposable" motors...anybody read the...   Feb 13 2006, 02:57 PM
anthony     Feb 13 2006, 06:06 PM
guiltless   There is something that is being left out here... ...   Feb 13 2006, 07:02 PM
Porcharu   ...   Feb 13 2006, 07:13 PM
grantsfo   I continue to see many make quotes that a Subaru e...   Feb 13 2006, 07:45 PM
scotts-toolwench   ...   Feb 13 2006, 07:52 PM
jimkelly   The choice of a stock type four - or a hot rodded ...   Feb 13 2006, 08:16 PM
cbenitah   ...   Feb 13 2006, 08:39 PM
mrdezyne   ...   Feb 14 2006, 09:40 AM
WRX914   Dana, what was the weight of your car that you got...   Feb 14 2006, 11:01 AM
WRX914   Just called Dana, he told me the actual weight of ...   Feb 14 2006, 11:05 AM
MattR     Feb 14 2006, 11:41 AM
WRX914     Feb 14 2006, 11:49 AM
WRX914   granted, it (997) was not a turbo... but he was in...   Feb 14 2006, 11:57 AM
MattR     Feb 14 2006, 12:04 PM
Porcharu   ...   Feb 14 2006, 12:07 PM
WRX914     Feb 14 2006, 12:11 PM
MattR   Ahh, you sorta have to ignore the whole "budget" t...   Feb 14 2006, 12:12 PM
SirAndy   guys http://www.914world.c...   Feb 14 2006, 12:31 PM
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Eddie Williams   I can't believe someone actually had to ask ...   Feb 14 2006, 02:54 PM
Goge   My opinion is that I don't want a porscharu to...   Feb 14 2006, 03:53 PM
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