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bongo monkey
post Sep 7 2003, 07:20 PM
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The 914 has a reputation for being one of the best handling sports car in the world. I find it hard to believe that 30 year old entry-level techonology can out handle modern sports cars that are focused on handling. What production street cars do you think can out-handle the 914? I've heard about Lotus cars handling extremely well, but also being quite expensive. How does the 914 compare to modern entry-level sports cars, such as a Honda S2000?
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post Sep 7 2003, 10:36 PM
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I think the Miata and the MR2 are right on the price point.

The MR2 certainly has the right formula... light weight (lighter than my Boxster), few creature comforts or luxury features, wheels out to the ends of teh car, a real driving maching produced by Toyota, a comany known for producing inexpensive reliable transportation (like VW, especially before they started moving up market). Dissapointingly at the autocroses I have been to the MR2 has not made the best showing... who knows?

From the handeling standpoint I think the Lotus Elise is IT right now. 1600 Lbs, 160HP, targa bar, less creature comforts than a 914 and pure magic on a twisty course. The only problem is that the US version is looking more like 2200 Lbs, 180HP, larger bumpers more front/rear overhang and lager HEAVIER wheels (more stylish for US customers). In the UK the Elise is priced with the MR2, Miata, Vaxhall, etc. the US spec Elise will be in the $35-38k range more in line with the Audi TT and S2000 than the Miata and MR2 so again... who knows?

I have driven tons of sports cars and keep coming back to the 914 for the handling and the emotional response I have when driving it. I have yet to find the same feeling in another car and that may be the thing that can't be engineered into these new cars. The Boxster is a great car and a great Porsche but even it doesn't generate the same feeling and enjoyment I find in the 914.
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bongo monkey   Out-handling the 914   Sep 7 2003, 07:20 PM
seanery   are you talking about a run of the mill 914? A set...   Sep 7 2003, 07:30 PM
bongo monkey   Let's say a 914 set up for autocross. Sway bar...   Sep 7 2003, 07:37 PM
redshift   I can't compare it to anything else, new. I ...   Sep 7 2003, 07:42 PM
biosurfer1   i worked for honda for more than a year, and the s...   Sep 7 2003, 08:08 PM
TimT   I put a smack down on some Porsches, and other ma...   Sep 7 2003, 08:29 PM
rick 918-S   Apples for apples need to include the price point....   Sep 7 2003, 09:39 PM
Bleyseng   Comparing dollar for dollar say a S2000 vs a nice ...   Sep 7 2003, 09:43 PM
J P Stein   I would say there are lots of cars that handle bet...   Sep 7 2003, 10:10 PM
Hi_Fi_Guy   I think the Miata and the MR2 are right on the pri...   Sep 7 2003, 10:36 PM
Charles Deutsch   ...   Sep 7 2003, 11:19 PM
cha914   I think that for cars setup for autox, like you st...   Sep 8 2003, 07:44 AM
Bleyseng   Oh no doubt the modern cars have an advantage the ...   Sep 8 2003, 08:09 AM
drew365   The real difference between most of the cars menti...   Sep 8 2003, 08:30 AM
anthony   Autocross though is not a pure test of handling. F...   Sep 8 2003, 09:32 AM
kdfoust   I don't necessarily think that the 914 design ...   Sep 8 2003, 10:25 AM
Air_Cooled_Nut     Sep 8 2003, 10:51 AM
BenNC   A national level guy that runs around here recentl...   Sep 8 2003, 04:33 PM
URY914   1. You can't compair old vs new. 2. There is n...   Sep 8 2003, 06:24 PM
Rob Ways   I hate when people ask questions about what is the...   Sep 8 2003, 11:00 PM
J P Stein     Sep 9 2003, 01:38 AM


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