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> OT: how far we've come?, 35 years of non-progress
lapuwali
post Mar 7 2006, 01:31 PM
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Hybrids are the buzzword now, and people marvel at how the latest Civic hybrid gets 50mpg.

Autoweek had a short article on the early Civics, which got 55mpg with a carb. 1.2L, 50hp, 1500lbs. Sure, they were slow, but they were described as still being fun to drive. The way most people drive modern Civics, I doubt they'd notice if they suddenly only had 50hp.

(yes, I know emissions are much better, it's quieter, it crashes better, yada, yada...)
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lapuwali   OT: how far we've come?   Mar 7 2006, 01:31 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 7 2006, 01:42 PM
TonyAKAVW     Mar 7 2006, 01:50 PM
r_towle   What I find amazing is that the Japanese car compa...   Mar 7 2006, 01:51 PM
turboman808   yeah kinda noticed the same thing. What gets me t...   Mar 7 2006, 01:53 PM
Mark Henry   ...   Mar 7 2006, 01:58 PM
mudfoot76     Mar 7 2006, 02:01 PM
lapuwali   The 50mpg Civic hybrid weighs 2800lbs, or 1300lbs ...   Mar 7 2006, 02:06 PM
byndbad914   werd... my dad had a 1984 Ford Escort with a Mazda...   Mar 7 2006, 02:07 PM
Joe Ricard   .....Well hey... i'd like a hummer....but not ...   Mar 7 2006, 02:08 PM
Cap'n Krusty   You might think a bit about Japanese manufacturers...   Mar 7 2006, 02:12 PM
TonyAKAVW   Regarding the ethanol fuel cars... Somone was tell...   Mar 7 2006, 02:15 PM
MrKona   I'm amazed at how powerful the average car is ...   Mar 7 2006, 02:17 PM
riverman     Mar 7 2006, 02:25 PM
SoCal Driver   I had a thought a while back.... If hybrid cars a...   Mar 7 2006, 02:26 PM
blitZ     Mar 7 2006, 02:36 PM
JmuRiz   ...   Mar 7 2006, 03:34 PM
fiid   <...   Mar 7 2006, 03:42 PM
anthony   People keep mentioning diesels. The reason we don...   Mar 7 2006, 03:47 PM
lapuwali     Mar 7 2006, 03:59 PM
Mike D.   <...   Mar 7 2006, 04:49 PM
kart54   I'm amazed at people that believe the mantra o...   Mar 7 2006, 05:16 PM
wbergtho   Two reasons for cars being heavier these days. 1: ...   Mar 7 2006, 05:51 PM
byndbad914   Wow - there were actually 2 Escort diesels built ...   Mar 7 2006, 07:48 PM
fiid   Biodiesel is a good thing IMHO. It's good bec...   Mar 7 2006, 08:26 PM
anthony  
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jimtab   ...   Mar 7 2006, 11:56 PM
johnmhudson111   <...   Mar 8 2006, 12:02 AM
jonwatts   Today's Mercury News has this article about gr...   Mar 8 2006, 01:00 AM
alpha434   ...   Mar 8 2006, 01:06 AM
Porcharu     Mar 8 2006, 08:27 AM
johannes   Why big cars ? The answer is easy ... gas is too c...   Mar 8 2006, 08:58 AM
DonTraver   Actually the price for premium in Europe is over ...   Mar 8 2006, 11:04 AM
anthony   What about those articles that came out against et...   Mar 8 2006, 11:21 AM
Pistachio   Dated material. The Cornell study was published i...   Mar 8 2006, 12:16 PM
fiid   One of the things that is interesting about the et...   Mar 8 2006, 12:30 PM
SirAndy     Mar 8 2006, 12:44 PM
lapuwali   ...   Mar 8 2006, 12:50 PM
Nick   The problem with ethanol is it takes more energy t...   Mar 8 2006, 12:52 PM
charlesmac   For all of us who feel only the deepest love and a...   Mar 8 2006, 12:55 PM
lapuwali     Mar 8 2006, 01:00 PM
fiid   <...   Mar 8 2006, 01:18 PM
lapuwali     Mar 8 2006, 01:51 PM
fiid   Incidently - Megasquirt has "Flexfuel" sensor supp...   Mar 8 2006, 02:07 PM
Flat VW   As has been said in threads of the past, the singl...   Mar 8 2006, 02:09 PM
Thorshammer   I just reviewed this thread, and Rich T is right o...   Mar 8 2006, 02:10 PM
Pistachio   <...   Mar 8 2006, 02:15 PM
Porcharu   <...   Mar 8 2006, 02:19 PM
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byndbad914   this o/t thread is turning into a pretty good one ...   Mar 8 2006, 03:37 PM
kwales   Here is a wild one. When in college, one of my pr...   Mar 8 2006, 04:16 PM
riverman     Mar 8 2006, 04:31 PM
alpha434   <...   Mar 8 2006, 05:01 PM
lapuwali   The "costs more energy to produce than it puts out...   Mar 8 2006, 05:10 PM
newto914s   When you think about it, the basic design of the i...   Mar 8 2006, 05:35 PM
lapuwali   ...   Mar 8 2006, 06:01 PM
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bd1308   well look at it this way.... we're taking mon...   Mar 8 2006, 06:54 PM
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