Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> OT: how far we've come?, 35 years of non-progress
lapuwali
post Mar 7 2006, 01:31 PM
Post #1


Not another one!
****

Group: Benefactors
Posts: 4,526
Joined: 1-March 04
From: San Mateo, CA
Member No.: 1,743



Hybrids are the buzzword now, and people marvel at how the latest Civic hybrid gets 50mpg.

Autoweek had a short article on the early Civics, which got 55mpg with a carb. 1.2L, 50hp, 1500lbs. Sure, they were slow, but they were described as still being fun to drive. The way most people drive modern Civics, I doubt they'd notice if they suddenly only had 50hp.

(yes, I know emissions are much better, it's quieter, it crashes better, yada, yada...)

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
Thorshammer
post Mar 8 2006, 02:10 PM
Post #2


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 754
Joined: 11-November 03
Member No.: 1,335




I just reviewed this thread, and Rich T is right on with his statements, One of the reasons American auto manufacturers have gotten their assed kicked is pure arrogance.

Primarily this is from decisions made over forty years ago.

Some people might know the lifes work of Demming.

Total Quality Management, Drill down techniques, 6 sigma, Just in time. These are management and manufacturing techniques adopted by the Japanese from ..... an American, Demming.

He went to American auto manufacturers in the 1950's and presented his managment ideas. Response, your nuts, we make the best cars in the world.

So who did he sell his ideas to. Japan. I have worked for two Japanese companies now,and these management ideas are always used.

As for the Japanese government being involved in business, yes, they are. Sony was "requested" to assist Toshiba through some hard times (same thing happened between Kawasaki and Suzuki three years ago), as directed by the government. Oh and BTW, Sony had to send their top management to help them get back on their feet. Toshiba also produced most of the CD units for Sony. Why? Easy, the government knows that the collapse of a company will create a rift through subcontractors and this will affect their economy. Not to mention the limits on incoming foreign trade. Face it, in some segments they are kicking our asses. And we need to rethink how we manage business and develop new products.

Erik Madsen
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
lapuwali   OT: how far we've come?   Mar 7 2006, 01:31 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 7 2006, 01:42 PM
TonyAKAVW     Mar 7 2006, 01:50 PM
r_towle   What I find amazing is that the Japanese car compa...   Mar 7 2006, 01:51 PM
turboman808   yeah kinda noticed the same thing. What gets me t...   Mar 7 2006, 01:53 PM
Mark Henry   ...   Mar 7 2006, 01:58 PM
mudfoot76     Mar 7 2006, 02:01 PM
lapuwali   The 50mpg Civic hybrid weighs 2800lbs, or 1300lbs ...   Mar 7 2006, 02:06 PM
byndbad914   werd... my dad had a 1984 Ford Escort with a Mazda...   Mar 7 2006, 02:07 PM
Joe Ricard   .....Well hey... i'd like a hummer....but not ...   Mar 7 2006, 02:08 PM
Cap'n Krusty   You might think a bit about Japanese manufacturers...   Mar 7 2006, 02:12 PM
TonyAKAVW   Regarding the ethanol fuel cars... Somone was tell...   Mar 7 2006, 02:15 PM
MrKona   I'm amazed at how powerful the average car is ...   Mar 7 2006, 02:17 PM
riverman     Mar 7 2006, 02:25 PM
SoCal Driver   I had a thought a while back.... If hybrid cars a...   Mar 7 2006, 02:26 PM
blitZ     Mar 7 2006, 02:36 PM
JmuRiz   ...   Mar 7 2006, 03:34 PM
fiid   <...   Mar 7 2006, 03:42 PM
anthony   People keep mentioning diesels. The reason we don...   Mar 7 2006, 03:47 PM
lapuwali     Mar 7 2006, 03:59 PM
Mike D.   <...   Mar 7 2006, 04:49 PM
kart54   I'm amazed at people that believe the mantra o...   Mar 7 2006, 05:16 PM
wbergtho   Two reasons for cars being heavier these days. 1: ...   Mar 7 2006, 05:51 PM
byndbad914   Wow - there were actually 2 Escort diesels built ...   Mar 7 2006, 07:48 PM
fiid   Biodiesel is a good thing IMHO. It's good bec...   Mar 7 2006, 08:26 PM
anthony  
  Mar 7 2006, 08:31 PM
jimtab   ...   Mar 7 2006, 11:56 PM
johnmhudson111   <...   Mar 8 2006, 12:02 AM
jonwatts   Today's Mercury News has this article about gr...   Mar 8 2006, 01:00 AM
alpha434   ...   Mar 8 2006, 01:06 AM
Porcharu     Mar 8 2006, 08:27 AM
johannes   Why big cars ? The answer is easy ... gas is too c...   Mar 8 2006, 08:58 AM
DonTraver   Actually the price for premium in Europe is over ...   Mar 8 2006, 11:04 AM
anthony   What about those articles that came out against et...   Mar 8 2006, 11:21 AM
Pistachio   Dated material. The Cornell study was published i...   Mar 8 2006, 12:16 PM
fiid   One of the things that is interesting about the et...   Mar 8 2006, 12:30 PM
SirAndy     Mar 8 2006, 12:44 PM
lapuwali   ...   Mar 8 2006, 12:50 PM
Nick   The problem with ethanol is it takes more energy t...   Mar 8 2006, 12:52 PM
charlesmac   For all of us who feel only the deepest love and a...   Mar 8 2006, 12:55 PM
lapuwali     Mar 8 2006, 01:00 PM
fiid   <...   Mar 8 2006, 01:18 PM
lapuwali     Mar 8 2006, 01:51 PM
fiid   Incidently - Megasquirt has "Flexfuel" sensor supp...   Mar 8 2006, 02:07 PM
Flat VW   As has been said in threads of the past, the singl...   Mar 8 2006, 02:09 PM
Thorshammer   I just reviewed this thread, and Rich T is right o...   Mar 8 2006, 02:10 PM
Pistachio   <...   Mar 8 2006, 02:15 PM
Porcharu   <...   Mar 8 2006, 02:19 PM
Porcharu   <...   Mar 8 2006, 02:56 PM
byndbad914   this o/t thread is turning into a pretty good one ...   Mar 8 2006, 03:37 PM
kwales   Here is a wild one. When in college, one of my pr...   Mar 8 2006, 04:16 PM
riverman     Mar 8 2006, 04:31 PM
alpha434   <...   Mar 8 2006, 05:01 PM
lapuwali   The "costs more energy to produce than it puts out...   Mar 8 2006, 05:10 PM
newto914s   When you think about it, the basic design of the i...   Mar 8 2006, 05:35 PM
lapuwali   ...   Mar 8 2006, 06:01 PM
TimT   My daily driver is a diesel p/u I run BIO every ...   Mar 8 2006, 06:02 PM
rick 918-S   We tried the ethenol in the Titan when the gas wen...   Mar 8 2006, 06:42 PM
bd1308   well look at it this way.... we're taking mon...   Mar 8 2006, 06:54 PM
Mike D.  

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 2nd April 2026 - 09:26 AM
...