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| lapuwali |
 Mar 7 2006, 01:31 PM
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Not another one!  Group: Benefactors Posts: 4,526 Joined: 1-March 04 From: San Mateo, CA Member No.: 1,743   |
Hybrids are the buzzword now, and people marvel at how the latest Civic hybrid gets 50mpg.
Autoweek had a short article on the early Civics, which got 55mpg with a carb. 1.2L, 50hp, 1500lbs. Sure, they were slow, but they were described as still being fun to drive. The way most people drive modern Civics, I doubt they'd notice if they suddenly only had 50hp. (yes, I know emissions are much better, it's quieter, it crashes better, yada, yada...) |
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| Porcharu |
Mar 8 2006, 02:19 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 27-January 05 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 3,518 Region Association: Northern California |
I "think" this is correct but it's all of the top of my head. Ethanol takes 3 units of energy to make 2 units of energy via the ethanol, and a huge amount of land to grow the feedstock. On the other hand the correct oilseed (rapeseed I think) takes 3 units of energy to produce 97 units of energy. If we really needed to we could grow enough oil seed to fuel the country - but we would really NEED to do it before we actually would. All non-food production (like animal feed) would need to be converted to oilseed and of course all our vehicles would need to be diesels. |
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lapuwali OT: how far we've come? Mar 7 2006, 01:31 PM
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