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> grey market cars worth less?
tommyg
post Mar 27 2006, 05:17 PM
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I know that in the 911 community, grey market cars generally have less value than US spec autos. I don't see them too often in the 914 community, but i was looking over a nice black 914 from socal on OC craigslist, but it appears to be a grey market car. Does that make it less valuable?

sorry if posting in the wrong spot, but i thought those who are looking to buy/sell would have the best insights...
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post Mar 28 2006, 10:41 AM
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"Grey market" would mean a non-US model that was privately imported into the US. Usually a European model.

So it would be kinda cool to see here, with the little differences (no sidemarkers, etc.).

Like McMark says, these cars weren't super high cost, so people probably didn't privately import them very often. But there probably are some here, imported from military guys, etc.

Grey market imports were biggest in the early to mid-80s. That was mainly because of the exchange rate and the strength of the US dollar at the time. Buying a Euro model in Germany with US dollars was cheap, you could spend money traveling to Germany to get the car, sending it back, getting it converted to US standards, and still come out ahead.

During that time there were also a lot of models that were not officially imported into the US (911 Turbo, M635, etc.)

And the Euro versions typically had more power.

Generally it's harder to sell a grey market used car, so it's value is lower. A lot of "conversion" shops sprung up (and disappeared) in the 80s and a lot of them did very shoddy conversion work - cobbled together exhausts and emissions, etc. I worked at a shop in the 80's and we saw lots of really bad greys. They were somewhat hard to work on, because you never really knew how or why they were modified.

Getting the car smogged can be an issue. Insurance can sometimes be an issue. Most buyers don't want to deal with it, so your pool of potential buyers is smaller.

Those are all still issues with, say, an '86 Mercedes. Not so much with an old 914.
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tommyg   grey market cars worth less?   Mar 27 2006, 05:17 PM
Mike D.   I don't see a grey market 914 as being any big...   Mar 27 2006, 06:27 PM
914-8   914s are so old now, the only thing that really ma...   Mar 27 2006, 06:30 PM
theol00   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Mar 27 2006, 07:27 PM
boxstr   Exactly what constitutes a grey market 914?? I hav...   Mar 28 2006, 12:33 AM
McMark   I would imagine that 914s were so low cost and so ...   Mar 28 2006, 12:44 AM
914-8   "Grey market" would mean a non-US model that was p...   Mar 28 2006, 10:41 AM
tommyg   I shouldn't post a link, as it probably means ...   Mar 28 2006, 12:00 PM
Mueller     Mar 28 2006, 12:02 PM
Mueller   <...   Mar 28 2006, 12:06 PM
Mueller   strange....front bumper looks like a US spec bumpe...   Mar 28 2006, 12:13 PM
914-8   Euro front and rear lenses, Euro emblem, no front ...   Mar 28 2006, 12:18 PM
grantsfo     Mar 28 2006, 12:22 PM
lapuwali   I once owned a '78 Mercedes that had been gray...   Mar 28 2006, 12:37 PM
Mike D.   Ask seller if there is a Vin Tag on left windshiel...   Mar 28 2006, 01:10 PM
tommyg   thanks guys. his bottom line is $6,500 which...   Mar 28 2006, 04:57 PM
914-8   I used to think the same way. Swore I'd never...   Mar 28 2006, 05:02 PM
Mueller     Mar 28 2006, 05:14 PM
grantsfo     Mar 28 2006, 05:17 PM
SirAndy     Mar 28 2006, 05:27 PM
Flat VW   <...   Mar 28 2006, 05:33 PM
tommyg   Yeah, $6,500 is swooping range, but I'd r...   Mar 28 2006, 05:38 PM
Mueller   The Diablo region PCA has a breakfast every Sat. i...   Mar 28 2006, 05:45 PM
tommyg   that's great to know. I've been scoping o...   Mar 28 2006, 08:32 PM
Flat VW   <...   Mar 28 2006, 09:10 PM
SirAndy   <...   Mar 28 2006, 10:20 PM
SirAndy   inside ...   Mar 28 2006, 10:21 PM
SirAndy   more inside ...   Mar 28 2006, 10:21 PM
Flat VW   Interesting, thanks for your reply, John   Apr 1 2006, 11:11 AM
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