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yarin
post Mar 28 2006, 09:37 PM
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I Was about to dig up my old thread from two months ago... but I felt some of these pics deserve there own thread.

I'm really moving along on my upgrade from carbs to MS. I should be able to power up the system this weekend and crank it the following weekend.

I chose a rather different approach to my install, a combination of logic, simplicity and durability. Please give me your input. For those who aren't familiar with MS go to www.megasquirt.info and www.msefi.com (forums).

I bought all of my Megasquirt parts from DIYautotune.com. Excellent vendor, i suggest doing business with them for anything.

What's left:

finish db-37 connector
connect all wires in relay box
mount intake plenum, connect DIY PVC intake
install gas tank
checked double check and triple check all fuel connections and wiring
configure MS
crank!!

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post Mar 29 2006, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE (lapuwali @ Mar 29 2006, 10:50 AM)

I'm also NOT going to be using the zillion ground wires run through the DB-37 all the way out to the main connector, but will be joining them to one screw post inside the big case, which will then run to a single 14g ground wire to be run to the big case (metal, so it should provide shielding) and then to the engine case.



A zillion might be a few too many, but you definitely don't want to skimp on ground wires in the main cable. For purely DC currents, it really doesn't matter where the ground current runs, as long as it makes it where it needs to go. But for anything with high frequency AC components (including on/off pulses, like the ones to the injectors)) you need to have a ground path really close to the signal path.

Lets say the current in one of the injector lines changes abrubtly. This is going to cause an abrubt change in the magnetic field circling around that wire. Consider anonther wire right next to it : Lenz's Law tells us that an EMF is going to be induced in that nearby wire to try and negate the change in the local magnetic field. If that nearby wire is a ground wire, it's no big deal - a little current flows along it, and at either end of the wire the current spreads out into the chassis and becomes insignificant. But if the nearby wire is a signal (as are most of the other wires in that cable), then the induced EMF is going to be superimposed on that signal.

It might be that it won't matter too much, since the other signals are things that should vary slowly compared to the injector firing frequency, but I don't know if MS does any low-pass filtering on them or not. Safest approach, IMO, is to keep the ground wires.
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yarin   Megasquirt Update   Mar 28 2006, 09:37 PM
yarin   aint it purty? http://ww...   Mar 28 2006, 09:38 PM
yarin   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/htm...   Mar 28 2006, 09:39 PM
yarin   db-37, i went the crimp route instead of the kit s...   Mar 28 2006, 09:40 PM
yarin   Rumor has it the DB37 connections are the biggest ...   Mar 28 2006, 09:41 PM
yarin   soon to be off jacks.   Mar 28 2006, 09:41 PM
newto914s   way to go yarin http://www.91...   Mar 28 2006, 11:35 PM
fiid   Looks clean - very nice work... good job!   Mar 29 2006, 12:37 AM
brokenmoped   What happened to the panasports?   Mar 29 2006, 12:46 AM
jkeyzer   What gauge wire is used for the DB-37 connections?...   Mar 29 2006, 03:22 AM
yarin   <...   Mar 29 2006, 05:46 AM
mikelsr   Why did you elect to crimp rather than solder?   Mar 29 2006, 05:57 AM
yarin   <...   Mar 29 2006, 07:32 AM
kconway   Why not put a backshell on that db-37 connector to...   Mar 29 2006, 08:10 AM
bd1308   fill the DB37 cable with epoxy when you're set...   Mar 29 2006, 08:28 AM
DNHunt   Britt Epoxy takes care of some of the problems bu...   Mar 29 2006, 08:35 AM
bd1308   this is true. I am planning to install MS during t...   Mar 29 2006, 08:48 AM
DNHunt   Try to design in fudge factor wherever you can so ...   Mar 29 2006, 09:05 AM
jkeyzer   I think typical crimp pins for a DB-37 are designe...   Mar 29 2006, 10:50 AM
lapuwali   The DB-37 is simply the wrong part for the job. T...   Mar 29 2006, 11:50 AM
toon1   ...   Mar 29 2006, 12:09 PM
yarin   In the event that I need to rewire a DB-37 connect...   Mar 29 2006, 12:11 PM
jsteele22   ...   Mar 29 2006, 12:46 PM
lapuwali   Signal wires and injector wires won't be in th...   Mar 29 2006, 01:13 PM
brant   I want to see a pic of the LC-1 Nice Job! br...   Mar 29 2006, 02:33 PM
yarin     Mar 29 2006, 03:11 PM
Hydra   Sorry for the http://www.9...   Mar 30 2006, 12:39 PM
brant     Mar 30 2006, 12:50 PM
lapuwali   Switching to MS2 from a fully working MS1 setup in...   Mar 30 2006, 12:55 PM
Hydra   MS1 it is then http://www.914world...   Mar 30 2006, 01:03 PM
fiid   ...   Mar 30 2006, 04:29 PM
lapuwali     Mar 30 2006, 04:49 PM
yarin   made some nice progress last night... i powered ...   Mar 31 2006, 08:17 AM
DNHunt   Yarin Sounds like you are close. When considerii...   Mar 31 2006, 08:43 AM
jkeyzer   I am going down a similar path. I will get things...   Mar 31 2006, 11:39 AM
fiid   Not sure about the 3.0 board migration. I'm n...   Mar 31 2006, 12:23 PM
lapuwali   <...   Mar 31 2006, 12:29 PM
lapuwali     Mar 31 2006, 12:38 PM
yarin   ...   Mar 31 2006, 12:59 PM
crash914   I really really like the MSII set up. Auto tune i...   Mar 31 2006, 01:44 PM
DNHunt   Herb Autotune is cool. It's kind of a pain to...   Apr 1 2006, 07:50 AM
yarin   some more progress today... wired up the relay bo...   Apr 1 2006, 08:29 PM
yarin   i'm damn proud of that TPS adapter.   Apr 1 2006, 08:44 PM
TimT   hmmmmm the end links etc that connect to the a-arm...   Apr 1 2006, 08:45 PM
Jeff Nelson   yarin, Yes, nice TPS adapter! I just started m...   Apr 1 2006, 08:58 PM
yarin     Apr 3 2006, 11:37 AM
jkeyzer   I think fiid and I ran into this scenario. Megatu...   Apr 3 2006, 02:13 PM
crash914   it will also show way lean with the motor not runn...   Apr 3 2006, 02:31 PM
yarin   well then... that may be my problem. i hope to fin...   Apr 3 2006, 02:42 PM
DNHunt   Yep' turning the ignition to on without starti...   Apr 3 2006, 02:58 PM


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