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> Megasquirt Update, with PICS
yarin
post Mar 28 2006, 09:37 PM
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I Was about to dig up my old thread from two months ago... but I felt some of these pics deserve there own thread.

I'm really moving along on my upgrade from carbs to MS. I should be able to power up the system this weekend and crank it the following weekend.

I chose a rather different approach to my install, a combination of logic, simplicity and durability. Please give me your input. For those who aren't familiar with MS go to www.megasquirt.info and www.msefi.com (forums).

I bought all of my Megasquirt parts from DIYautotune.com. Excellent vendor, i suggest doing business with them for anything.

What's left:

finish db-37 connector
connect all wires in relay box
mount intake plenum, connect DIY PVC intake
install gas tank
checked double check and triple check all fuel connections and wiring
configure MS
crank!!

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post Mar 30 2006, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (fiid @ Mar 30 2006, 02:29 PM)
QUOTE (lapuwali @ Mar 30 2006, 10:55 AM)
Switching to MS2 from a fully working MS1 setup involves just swapping the processors, flipping a switch in Megatune, then using the new options you get from MS2.  The maps you make for MS1 should work.  So, learning how to do all of the tuning with MS1 is hardly wasted effort.  The MS1 software is still more stable than the MS2 software, and it's still likely to be awhile before the MS2 code has all of the options and stability of the MS1 code.

Almost true....

If you were running MS-n-S EXTRA on your MS-1 processor and you upgrade to MSII - you might have to reroute some of the extra inputs that you might have been using... for example - I used to use the LED17 output for my EDIS output - and MSII has an explicit output for that - so I had to reroute my Xxx (whatever it was output).

This basically means you can't swap back and forth a lot; but it did take less than 2 hours for me to make all the changes and migrate everything over.

The spark and fuel maps can be moved over, and if you have an 8x8 map in your MS1 - the software will interpolate it up to a 12x12 map for the MSII, so that's a very painless process.

If you're starting with the v3.0 board, though, you should be able to use one of the other new v3.0 outputs for EDIS with MS1, rather than steal one of the LED drivers. I expect MS2 will, eventually, be able to drive the LED outputs for yet more "extra" outputs, too. I'm assuming it can't do it now, but only for software reasons.

The main thing you'll gain with MS2 over MS1 is the CAN support, which will be required for some of the later things coming, like the router board. This will be required if you intend to later move to something like coil-on-plug ignition, or you add so much power you need traction control, or you add a turbo and need to idle well with big injectors (hard to do right now) and don't want to go to the expense of staged injection (can be done now even with MS1).

In any case, by the time you have your MS1 working and tuned, this may all be worked out, and you can switch to MS2 easily if you decide there are features you have to have. MS1 will still be adequate for a long time, though.

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yarin   Megasquirt Update   Mar 28 2006, 09:37 PM
yarin   aint it purty? http://ww...   Mar 28 2006, 09:38 PM
yarin   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/htm...   Mar 28 2006, 09:39 PM
yarin   db-37, i went the crimp route instead of the kit s...   Mar 28 2006, 09:40 PM
yarin   Rumor has it the DB37 connections are the biggest ...   Mar 28 2006, 09:41 PM
yarin   soon to be off jacks.   Mar 28 2006, 09:41 PM
newto914s   way to go yarin http://www.91...   Mar 28 2006, 11:35 PM
fiid   Looks clean - very nice work... good job!   Mar 29 2006, 12:37 AM
brokenmoped   What happened to the panasports?   Mar 29 2006, 12:46 AM
jkeyzer   What gauge wire is used for the DB-37 connections?...   Mar 29 2006, 03:22 AM
yarin   <...   Mar 29 2006, 05:46 AM
mikelsr   Why did you elect to crimp rather than solder?   Mar 29 2006, 05:57 AM
yarin   <...   Mar 29 2006, 07:32 AM
kconway   Why not put a backshell on that db-37 connector to...   Mar 29 2006, 08:10 AM
bd1308   fill the DB37 cable with epoxy when you're set...   Mar 29 2006, 08:28 AM
DNHunt   Britt Epoxy takes care of some of the problems bu...   Mar 29 2006, 08:35 AM
bd1308   this is true. I am planning to install MS during t...   Mar 29 2006, 08:48 AM
DNHunt   Try to design in fudge factor wherever you can so ...   Mar 29 2006, 09:05 AM
jkeyzer   I think typical crimp pins for a DB-37 are designe...   Mar 29 2006, 10:50 AM
lapuwali   The DB-37 is simply the wrong part for the job. T...   Mar 29 2006, 11:50 AM
toon1   ...   Mar 29 2006, 12:09 PM
yarin   In the event that I need to rewire a DB-37 connect...   Mar 29 2006, 12:11 PM
jsteele22   ...   Mar 29 2006, 12:46 PM
lapuwali   Signal wires and injector wires won't be in th...   Mar 29 2006, 01:13 PM
brant   I want to see a pic of the LC-1 Nice Job! br...   Mar 29 2006, 02:33 PM
yarin     Mar 29 2006, 03:11 PM
Hydra   Sorry for the http://www.9...   Mar 30 2006, 12:39 PM
brant     Mar 30 2006, 12:50 PM
lapuwali   Switching to MS2 from a fully working MS1 setup in...   Mar 30 2006, 12:55 PM
Hydra   MS1 it is then http://www.914world...   Mar 30 2006, 01:03 PM
fiid   ...   Mar 30 2006, 04:29 PM
lapuwali     Mar 30 2006, 04:49 PM
yarin   made some nice progress last night... i powered ...   Mar 31 2006, 08:17 AM
DNHunt   Yarin Sounds like you are close. When considerii...   Mar 31 2006, 08:43 AM
jkeyzer   I am going down a similar path. I will get things...   Mar 31 2006, 11:39 AM
fiid   Not sure about the 3.0 board migration. I'm n...   Mar 31 2006, 12:23 PM
lapuwali   <...   Mar 31 2006, 12:29 PM
lapuwali     Mar 31 2006, 12:38 PM
yarin   ...   Mar 31 2006, 12:59 PM
crash914   I really really like the MSII set up. Auto tune i...   Mar 31 2006, 01:44 PM
DNHunt   Herb Autotune is cool. It's kind of a pain to...   Apr 1 2006, 07:50 AM
yarin   some more progress today... wired up the relay bo...   Apr 1 2006, 08:29 PM
yarin   i'm damn proud of that TPS adapter.   Apr 1 2006, 08:44 PM
TimT   hmmmmm the end links etc that connect to the a-arm...   Apr 1 2006, 08:45 PM
Jeff Nelson   yarin, Yes, nice TPS adapter! I just started m...   Apr 1 2006, 08:58 PM
yarin     Apr 3 2006, 11:37 AM
jkeyzer   I think fiid and I ran into this scenario. Megatu...   Apr 3 2006, 02:13 PM
crash914   it will also show way lean with the motor not runn...   Apr 3 2006, 02:31 PM
yarin   well then... that may be my problem. i hope to fin...   Apr 3 2006, 02:42 PM
DNHunt   Yep' turning the ignition to on without starti...   Apr 3 2006, 02:58 PM


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