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> Suspension swap, Swap 911/930 front suspension to my 914
spyder9014
post Feb 9 2003, 02:14 PM
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What are the benefits of using 911/930 front suspension on a 914.
I have installed gas shocks, turbo tie rods but I have seen it recommended to use the 930 front suspension. Is this just to get the brakes or is this for struts/brakes/torsion bars?
If I upgrade the calipers and rotors will it be just as good as a complete swap?
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I have a 914 Boge strut with 3.5" ears, with a 15mm raised spindler.


It's a spindle.

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Installed on my struts are all the pieces from my previous 911SC front suspension. These include 911SC vented rotors that I bought from performancerotors.com. These are not drilled rotors...and no adapters were used.


Sorry... you can't install 'all the pieces from your previous 911SC front suspension' on a 914 strut. The spindles are not the same size... UNLESS, they have some custom bearings to adapt. So let me get this straight:

Cut spindle off SC struts - $
Raise and Weld Spindle on 914 strut - $?

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Custom bearings - $?
Cut and Raise spindle - $?
Mounting ear modification - $?

-vs.-

Custom valved inserts?

It doesn't add up, especially when you'll basically have a 911 Boge strut with 3.5" ears when you're finished. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/confused24.gif)

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I bought Koni´s P/N 8641-1077S which is the correct P/N for 914/914-6.


Those will drop right in the most common 911 'Boge' strut. Says so right in your description (914-6).

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If you say that the 914-6 strut is identical to the 911 (any year?) strut, and, according to Koni´s P/N, 914-6 and 914 use the same insert, then the 914 insert should fit the 911 (any year?) strut. Right??


I didn't say 'any year'. There are roughly 4 different 911 struts. Correct?:

Boge - Most Common (takes 914 inserts)
Koni - On many 911S models (special valved insert)
Bilstein - On many 911S models (special valved insert) and
Hydronumatic (sic) - Option on 911E models (you don't want...)

In saying your 914 insert would fit 'any' strut, that would be misleading. Just like saying that 911 struts make a 914 ride harsh. A 911 'insert' in a 911 strut may make for a harsh ride.

The 914-6 strut is a 911 'Boge' strut from the same era. A 914 insert should fit any 'Boge' threaded strut... yes.

So... I say:

Buy a 911 front suspension, if that's what you want. Drop some 914 inserts in it and go, go, go... If you're going the serious 3.5" (Koni/Bilstein) route then it's still cheaper and easier to get custom valved inserts than it is to have all the chopping and welding done. Chris Foley charges $225.00 for the spindle operation alone. Then you've got to modify the ears...

Fill me in. How did you get a 911 hub on a 914 spindle?
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spyder9014   Suspension swap   Feb 9 2003, 02:14 PM
J P Stein   Most guys do the 9eleben front end to get bigger b...   Feb 9 2003, 02:51 PM
Jeroen   Early 911 struts have 3" caliper mount spacing as ...   Feb 9 2003, 08:32 PM
Mueller   IMHO.....swapping over to the 930 front end and pa...   Feb 9 2003, 10:52 PM
pnewman     Mar 4 2006, 07:20 PM
brant     Mar 4 2006, 07:41 PM
pnewman     Mar 4 2006, 09:04 PM
Spoke   I converted my 71 914 to 911 a-arms, torsion bars,...   Mar 4 2006, 10:37 PM
brant   All 911's were 19mm in fact its not even reall...   Mar 4 2006, 10:39 PM
army dude   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Mar 4 2006, 10:49 PM
Aaron Cox     Mar 4 2006, 10:59 PM
Dr. Roger     Mar 4 2006, 11:00 PM
Dr. Roger   prolly swap in some new brake lines while it's...   Mar 4 2006, 11:06 PM
brant   Pete, 19mm would be a good match for 180 rear sp...   Mar 5 2006, 09:24 AM
pnewman     Mar 5 2006, 10:00 AM
brant     Mar 5 2006, 10:34 AM
pnewman   Brant, thanks for the info! h...   Mar 5 2006, 12:04 PM
pnewman   Brant, Final front end suspension. 1988 stru...   Mar 25 2006, 08:28 PM
brant   sounds like you've worked your butt off... tha...   Mar 25 2006, 09:33 PM
Eric_Shea   Bolt on Army Dude, Bolt on.   Mar 25 2006, 10:14 PM
pnewman   Hey Eric! I pressed in your hubs. They are r...   Mar 26 2006, 12:07 AM
Eric_Shea   Glad everything is working out... <...   Mar 26 2006, 08:01 AM
rickyhgarcia   Elephant racing has a great tool in their website ...   Mar 26 2006, 11:27 AM
Dr. Roger   <...   Mar 26 2006, 11:28 AM
rickyhgarcia   Can also check in here: Struts spindler mods...   Mar 27 2006, 11:49 AM
Dr. Roger   andyrew, did u notice on elephants website that t...   Mar 27 2006, 02:45 PM
rickyhgarcia   225lbs...275lbs rear springs? On a lightweight ca...   Mar 31 2006, 05:50 PM
Mueller  
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rickyhgarcia   Koni Inserts P/N 914/914-6 8641-1077 911 75-8...   Mar 31 2006, 11:30 PM
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Eric_Shea   Thanks Ricky for the explanation. Again, as evi...   Apr 1 2006, 11:17 AM
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GTPatrick   Eric & Ricky, . . . . . What do you guys mea...   Apr 1 2006, 12:39 PM
rickyhgarcia   ...   Apr 1 2006, 01:03 PM
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John Jentz   ...   Apr 1 2006, 02:11 PM
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soupbone   So the question for me is who can do custom valved...   Apr 2 2006, 01:43 AM
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jasons   <...   Apr 2 2006, 08:25 AM
Eric_Shea   Try Jack French at Bilstein he can be reached at 1...   Apr 2 2006, 10:06 AM
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jsteele22   Just came across this thread. Lots of great info....   Apr 2 2006, 09:24 PM
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neo914-6   ...   Apr 3 2006, 09:51 AM
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Eric_Shea   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Apr 3 2006, 09:59 AM
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Eric_Shea   See the bottom of page 3.   Apr 3 2006, 10:54 AM
Eric_Shea   I also want to be clear on the pricing for revalvi...   Apr 3 2006, 11:06 AM
JOHNMAN   Thanks for the info Eric, I read and re-read the ...   Apr 3 2006, 11:25 AM
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JOHNMAN   We thank you for your support.   Apr 3 2006, 11:32 AM
rickyhgarcia   This is what they look like before powder coating....   Apr 3 2006, 12:05 PM
rickyhgarcia   Left...   Apr 3 2006, 12:10 PM
rickyhgarcia   Right...   Apr 3 2006, 12:11 PM
Eric_Shea   Pur-deeeeee http://www.914world.co...   Apr 3 2006, 01:19 PM
davep   There are quite a few struts used on the 911 and 9...   Apr 3 2006, 01:46 PM
soupbone   ...   Apr 3 2006, 03:45 PM
Eric_Shea   That's basically it. He does a really nice jo...   Apr 3 2006, 03:55 PM
rickyhgarcia   Some general information on 911 struts and front b...   Apr 4 2006, 05:41 AM
rickyhgarcia   Some more general info:   Apr 4 2006, 06:04 AM


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