Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Suspension swap, Swap 911/930 front suspension to my 914
spyder9014
post Feb 9 2003, 02:14 PM
Post #1


Newbie
*

Group: Members
Posts: 2
Joined: 9-February 03
Member No.: 274



What are the benefits of using 911/930 front suspension on a 914.
I have installed gas shocks, turbo tie rods but I have seen it recommended to use the 930 front suspension. Is this just to get the brakes or is this for struts/brakes/torsion bars?
If I upgrade the calipers and rotors will it be just as good as a complete swap?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
neo914-6
post Apr 3 2006, 01:30 AM
Post #2


neo life
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5,086
Joined: 16-January 03
From: Willow Glen (San Jose)
Member No.: 159



QUOTE (rickyhgarcia @ Apr 2 2006, 05:04 PM)
QUOTE
BTW, my V8 914 has 911 Boge struts, Automotion conversion kit for Koni adjustable inserts, Brad replaced my "S" w/ "A" calipers, 8" wheels...


Eric,

I thought you mentioned earlier in this thread that 914 inserts simply fit the 911 Boge struts. neo914-6 mentions a conversion kit to these struts to make them compatible with the 914 insert.

I checked the Automotion website...they call it a "Front Cap Nut For Boge Struts."

What gives?

Ricky,

You made me dig up my old receipts to show how well my memory doesn't serve me. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif) I actually got them from "Porsheaven" in '89 and they are listed as 911E strut conv PS-911. When Brad worked on my car in ~03, he had to fab or weld something as they were loose in the strut. He or Andy may remember...

Did more investigation, looks like I bought 911 struts to AVOID:
QUOTE
911 (1965-1977) Suspension

911 1970 HYDRO PNEUMATIC STRUTS
Back to 911 (1965-1977)

Question
Answer

RECENTLY PURCHASED A 1970 911 E COUPE.THE CAR WAS IN STORAGE FOR OVER 32 YEARS. THE FRONT END WAS ALMOST TOUCHING THE GROUND AND IT WAS THEN I STARTED LEARNING ABOUT HYDRO PNEUMATIC STRUTS. I HAVE GONE TO THE PORSCHE MANUAL AND FOLLOWED THE DIRECTIONS TO TRY TO PUMP THEM UP BUT NO LUCK. I HAVE TO ASSUME THEY ARE BAD.SINCE THEY ARE NO LONGER MADE BY BOGE/SACHS, THEIR NO AMERICA TECH MGR REFERED ME TO EUROPE'S FACTORY TECH GUY BUT NO WORD BACK.I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS: DOES ANYONE IN THE STATES RE BUILD THEM? ARE THERE ANY SOURCES YOU CAN THINK OF THAT MAY HAVE NEW OR SERVICABLE PAIRS? LASTLY.....CAN I CONVERT THESE TO THE STANDARD 911 SUSPENSION AND WHAT PARTS ARE REQUIRED OVER AND ABOVE THE HYDRO PNEUMATICS SET UP? DOES PORSCHE HAVE ANY SERVICE MANUAL TO CONVERT IN LIGHT OF THE OUT OF MANUFACTURE CONDITION ON THE STRUTS? LOTS OF BUM STEERS SO FAR, NO FACTS.CAN YOU HELP?
Those were not one of Porsches' greatest engineering marvels. To my knowledge there is no factory support or anyone else's for that matter that I'm aware of. At one time Koni made a adapter kit that consisted of aluminum bushings to let you install a standard shock into the pneumatic strut. I doubt you would even find that anymore. The usual fix was to entirely convert the suspension to a standard strut and torsion bar set-up. Besides the strut itself, you will likely need the lower control arms, since I don't believe the originals had the splines for the torsion bars. I have never seen any official mention of this conversion, it's just something every one knew about back then.

Ed Mayo - PCA WebSite - 8/10/2004

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
spyder9014   Suspension swap   Feb 9 2003, 02:14 PM
J P Stein   Most guys do the 9eleben front end to get bigger b...   Feb 9 2003, 02:51 PM
Jeroen   Early 911 struts have 3" caliper mount spacing as ...   Feb 9 2003, 08:32 PM
Mueller   IMHO.....swapping over to the 930 front end and pa...   Feb 9 2003, 10:52 PM
pnewman     Mar 4 2006, 07:20 PM
brant     Mar 4 2006, 07:41 PM
pnewman     Mar 4 2006, 09:04 PM
Spoke   I converted my 71 914 to 911 a-arms, torsion bars,...   Mar 4 2006, 10:37 PM
brant   All 911's were 19mm in fact its not even reall...   Mar 4 2006, 10:39 PM
army dude   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Mar 4 2006, 10:49 PM
Aaron Cox     Mar 4 2006, 10:59 PM
Dr. Roger     Mar 4 2006, 11:00 PM
Dr. Roger   prolly swap in some new brake lines while it's...   Mar 4 2006, 11:06 PM
brant   Pete, 19mm would be a good match for 180 rear sp...   Mar 5 2006, 09:24 AM
pnewman     Mar 5 2006, 10:00 AM
brant     Mar 5 2006, 10:34 AM
pnewman   Brant, thanks for the info! h...   Mar 5 2006, 12:04 PM
pnewman   Brant, Final front end suspension. 1988 stru...   Mar 25 2006, 08:28 PM
brant   sounds like you've worked your butt off... tha...   Mar 25 2006, 09:33 PM
Eric_Shea   Bolt on Army Dude, Bolt on.   Mar 25 2006, 10:14 PM
pnewman   Hey Eric! I pressed in your hubs. They are r...   Mar 26 2006, 12:07 AM
Eric_Shea   Glad everything is working out... <...   Mar 26 2006, 08:01 AM
rickyhgarcia   Elephant racing has a great tool in their website ...   Mar 26 2006, 11:27 AM
Dr. Roger   <...   Mar 26 2006, 11:28 AM
rickyhgarcia   Can also check in here: Struts spindler mods...   Mar 27 2006, 11:49 AM
Dr. Roger   andyrew, did u notice on elephants website that t...   Mar 27 2006, 02:45 PM
rickyhgarcia   225lbs...275lbs rear springs? On a lightweight ca...   Mar 31 2006, 05:50 PM
Mueller  
  Mar 31 2006, 11:29 PM
rickyhgarcia   Koni Inserts P/N 914/914-6 8641-1077 911 75-8...   Mar 31 2006, 11:30 PM
Eric_Shea  
  Mar 31 2006, 11:39 PM
Eric_Shea  
  Mar 31 2006, 11:42 PM
rickyhgarcia  
  Mar 31 2006, 11:47 PM
Eric_Shea  
  Mar 31 2006, 11:48 PM
rickyhgarcia  
  Mar 31 2006, 11:58 PM
rickyhgarcia  
  Apr 1 2006, 12:15 AM
Eric_Shea  
  Apr 1 2006, 12:25 AM
rickyhgarcia  
  Apr 1 2006, 12:33 AM
Eric_Shea  
  Apr 1 2006, 12:34 AM
army dude   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Apr 1 2006, 12:50 AM
rickyhgarcia  
  Apr 1 2006, 12:56 AM
rickyhgarcia  
  Apr 1 2006, 01:35 AM
Eric_Shea   Thanks Ricky for the explanation. Again, as evi...   Apr 1 2006, 11:17 AM
rickyhgarcia  
  Apr 1 2006, 12:19 PM
GTPatrick   Eric & Ricky, . . . . . What do you guys mea...   Apr 1 2006, 12:39 PM
rickyhgarcia   ...   Apr 1 2006, 01:03 PM
rickyhgarcia  
  Apr 1 2006, 01:33 PM
John Jentz   ...   Apr 1 2006, 02:11 PM
Eric_Shea  
  Apr 1 2006, 03:17 PM
soupbone   So the question for me is who can do custom valved...   Apr 2 2006, 01:43 AM
neo914-6  
  Apr 2 2006, 02:56 AM
jasons   <...   Apr 2 2006, 08:25 AM
Eric_Shea   Try Jack French at Bilstein he can be reached at 1...   Apr 2 2006, 10:06 AM
rickyhgarcia  
  Apr 2 2006, 07:04 PM
Eric_Shea  
  Apr 2 2006, 07:58 PM
jsteele22   Just came across this thread. Lots of great info....   Apr 2 2006, 09:24 PM
rickyhgarcia  
  Apr 2 2006, 10:12 PM
neo914-6   ...   Apr 3 2006, 09:51 AM
rickyhgarcia  
  Apr 3 2006, 09:58 AM
Eric_Shea   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Apr 3 2006, 09:59 AM
JOHNMAN  
  Apr 3 2006, 10:41 AM
Eric_Shea   See the bottom of page 3.   Apr 3 2006, 10:54 AM
Eric_Shea   I also want to be clear on the pricing for revalvi...   Apr 3 2006, 11:06 AM
JOHNMAN   Thanks for the info Eric, I read and re-read the ...   Apr 3 2006, 11:25 AM
Eric_Shea  
  Apr 3 2006, 11:30 AM
JOHNMAN   We thank you for your support.   Apr 3 2006, 11:32 AM
rickyhgarcia   This is what they look like before powder coating....   Apr 3 2006, 12:05 PM
rickyhgarcia   Left...   Apr 3 2006, 12:10 PM
rickyhgarcia   Right...   Apr 3 2006, 12:11 PM
Eric_Shea   Pur-deeeeee http://www.914world.co...   Apr 3 2006, 01:19 PM
davep   There are quite a few struts used on the 911 and 9...   Apr 3 2006, 01:46 PM
soupbone   ...   Apr 3 2006, 03:45 PM
Eric_Shea   That's basically it. He does a really nice jo...   Apr 3 2006, 03:55 PM
rickyhgarcia   Some general information on 911 struts and front b...   Apr 4 2006, 05:41 AM
rickyhgarcia   Some more general info:   Apr 4 2006, 06:04 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 

- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 29th May 2024 - 04:56 AM