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> Suspension swap, Swap 911/930 front suspension to my 914
spyder9014
post Feb 9 2003, 02:14 PM
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What are the benefits of using 911/930 front suspension on a 914.
I have installed gas shocks, turbo tie rods but I have seen it recommended to use the 930 front suspension. Is this just to get the brakes or is this for struts/brakes/torsion bars?
If I upgrade the calipers and rotors will it be just as good as a complete swap?
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Some general information on 911 struts and front brakes:

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Identifying 911 front brakes and strut assemblies:
Front Struts:

  Boge strut housings were standard equipment, and are the most common found on the 911. They are black (sometimes gray) in color, and used a standard hydraulic shock insert. The advantage of a Boge strut is that you can replace the shock insert with either Boge, Koni, Bilstein, KYB, or your favorite brand shock insert.

  Koni strut housings were optional equipment on 911s through 77, and are identified by their red/orange color. Most Koni shock inserts were originally hydraulic, capable of being adjusted firmer or softer by removing the shock and manually adjusting the setting. Newer Koni replacement inserts are gas shocks with adjustment made by turning a knob at the top of the shock (taking only a few seconds to change the firmness).

  Koni struts can only use a Koni shock insert.

  Bilstein strut assemblies were optional equipment on the 911, and standard equipment on the 911 Turbo. They are identified by their green (sometimes yellow) color. Bilstein struts can only use Bilstein shock inserts.

Front Brakes:

  M calipers. Stock, steel calipers for 911’s through 75. Caliper mounting bolt spacing on strut is about 3 inches.  Figure 1 and Figure 2 show 'M' calipers installed on a car.

  S calipers. Aluminum, larger calipers used on 911S and ‘S’ option cars through 77. Mounting bolt spacing on strut is about 3.5 inches. Cannot be put on ‘M’ caliper front end. Can be used on A caliper front end.

  A calipers. Stock, steel calipers used on 75-83 911. Mounting bolt spacing on strut is about 3.5 inches (same as ‘S’ caliper).   Carrera calipers were used on 911’s from 84-89, and accomodate a brake pad wear sensor.  Figure 3, Figure 4, and Figure 5 show 'A' calipers from a 911SC front suspension.

  All 911s through 89 used the same size front torsion bar (19mm). Note: The 914 torsion bar and the 911 torsion bars are not interchangeable, as the number of splines on the bar are different.


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spyder9014   Suspension swap   Feb 9 2003, 02:14 PM
J P Stein   Most guys do the 9eleben front end to get bigger b...   Feb 9 2003, 02:51 PM
Jeroen   Early 911 struts have 3" caliper mount spacing as ...   Feb 9 2003, 08:32 PM
Mueller   IMHO.....swapping over to the 930 front end and pa...   Feb 9 2003, 10:52 PM
pnewman     Mar 4 2006, 07:20 PM
brant     Mar 4 2006, 07:41 PM
pnewman     Mar 4 2006, 09:04 PM
Spoke   I converted my 71 914 to 911 a-arms, torsion bars,...   Mar 4 2006, 10:37 PM
brant   All 911's were 19mm in fact its not even reall...   Mar 4 2006, 10:39 PM
army dude   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/h...   Mar 4 2006, 10:49 PM
Aaron Cox     Mar 4 2006, 10:59 PM
Dr. Roger     Mar 4 2006, 11:00 PM
Dr. Roger   prolly swap in some new brake lines while it's...   Mar 4 2006, 11:06 PM
brant   Pete, 19mm would be a good match for 180 rear sp...   Mar 5 2006, 09:24 AM
pnewman     Mar 5 2006, 10:00 AM
brant     Mar 5 2006, 10:34 AM
pnewman   Brant, thanks for the info! h...   Mar 5 2006, 12:04 PM
pnewman   Brant, Final front end suspension. 1988 stru...   Mar 25 2006, 08:28 PM
brant   sounds like you've worked your butt off... tha...   Mar 25 2006, 09:33 PM
Eric_Shea   Bolt on Army Dude, Bolt on.   Mar 25 2006, 10:14 PM
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Eric_Shea   See the bottom of page 3.   Apr 3 2006, 10:54 AM
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davep   There are quite a few struts used on the 911 and 9...   Apr 3 2006, 01:46 PM
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Eric_Shea   That's basically it. He does a really nice jo...   Apr 3 2006, 03:55 PM
rickyhgarcia   Some general information on 911 struts and front b...   Apr 4 2006, 05:41 AM
rickyhgarcia   Some more general info:   Apr 4 2006, 06:04 AM


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