914-6 GT? Options

[out_0f_exile]

Hi,

Does anyone know how rare a factory 1970 914-6 GT is? My step dad recently came arcoss one and is currently putting it all together (parts had been removed). So if anybody knows much about them or even better, how much they go for at an auction, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

[scotty b]

O.K. I found the catalog and took a pic. Article was on Hussy's car and was written by Brett Johnson so it is probably pretty acurate.

" But the rarest of all 914 derivitives produced were the 914/6GT, the 916 and the 916/6 with the M471 package."

Article then goes on to describe the various changes between said models thenm states

" Now, consider the following: total 1971 914/6 production was 443 cars; total 1972 production was 240 cars; and 1972 cars were not exported to this country. So what are the odds of findinga U.S> spec carwith the M471 option package?There are no factory records of the number producedbut there is at least one...

Article also states that

"At least three of the 916s had trendy "op-art" seat inserts although most seem to have leather. The firewall and third seat area were leather coverd as well as the dash top,shift boot even carpet edging. The car imported to the U.S. by Peter Gregg at BrumosPorsche in Florida even had leather coverd visors and headliner!"

There is alot of other info in the article i won't get into such as an attempt at integrating the antenna into the windshield. Page 20-26 of the older AA catalog

[davep]

Article was on Hussy's car and was written by Brett Johnson so it is probably pretty acurate.

total 1972 production was 240 cars;

Pretty accurate maybe, but still in error. Especially when we have photos of 259 and 260.

[scotty b]

Article was on Hussy's car and was written by Brett Johnson so it is probably pretty acurate.

total 1972 production was 240 cars;

Pretty accurate maybe, but still in error. Especially when we have photos of 259 and 260.

Possible misunderstanding on one of our parts. Photos are of #260 in the 1972 model year, or #260 total? Figures in the article would add up to a TOTAL no of cars built at 683 from 71-72 with 240 of those being produced in 72
. Obviously a bit of mystery surrounding the 6's that no-one has definitively cleared up

[Quilmes]

<Possible misunderstanding on one of our parts. Photos are of #260 in the 1972 model year, or #260 total? Figures in the article would add up to a TOTAL no of cars built at 683 from 71-72 with 240 of those being produced in 72
. Obviously a bit of mystery surrounding the 6's that no-one has definitively cleared up>


Here it goes, the reason that many people in the United States think that there were only 240 1972 914-6 made is because whom ever translated the " Excellence was expected" Book, made a tipo.
If you pick up a German version you will find that it say that there were 260 914-6 made in 1972 build year.
Many people who have written books about 914s use the Excellence was expected book as a reference(The English version) and do not really due any research on how many where built. All it takes is a few phone calls and leters.
It's the same with a few 914-6 GT running around claiming racing history when I know for a fact that two cars are not really what they claim to be.

That is why George Hussey was so happy when he bought the Red 9142430240, because the English version of most books said #240 was the last one built.
When I brought in 9142430259, George wanted to buy it right on the spot, made me a better offer than the current owner had, but I had made a promise and was not about to stab a person in the back whom with out knowing who I was deposited a lot of money in my bank account with no questions asked.

#260 is currently for sale in Germany, you can also see it on Armando web site.

So yes there were 260 914-6 built in the 72 build year.

But don't forget that the factory also re-did a 914-4 into a M471 914-6 in 1975 for a customer. Anything is possible.

I hope that this helps a bit.

Quilmes

[Gustl]

#260 is currently for sale in Germany, you can also see it on Armando web site.

So yes there were 260 914-6 built in the 72 build year.

But don't forget that the factory also re-did a 914-4 into a M471 914-6 in 1975 for a customer. Anything is possible.

I hope that this helps a bit.

Quilmes

Martin, I'm not sure that #260 is still for sale, the ad is more than half a year old ... but I'm currently trying to find it out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)



little comentars to something of the above:
AFAIK there was not one single 914-6 built in 1972 ... they were all built in 1971, but model year 1972 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


it's a fact that #260 is the highest recordet VIN, but nobody knows for sure whats the latest built - another fact is, that all these cars were not built by strictly incrementing VINs
we all know that George claims to have the last - that's possible, but he can't proof it

there's even a 914-4 that got converted to a 914-6 GT by the Porsche Austria Racing Division - this one entered just a few local races and got sold then

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl

[Quilmes]

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Martin, I'm not sure that #260 is still for sale, the ad is more than half a year old ... but I'm currently trying to find it out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)



little comentars to something of the above:
AFAIK there was not one single 914-6 built in 1972 ... they were all built in 1971, but model year 1972 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)


it's a fact that #260 is the highest recordet VIN, but nobody knows for sure whats the latest built - another fact is, that all these cars were not built by strictly incrementing VINs
we all know that George claims to have the last - that's possible, but he can't proof it

there's even a 914-4 that got converted to a 914-6 GT by the Porsche Austria Racing Division - this one entered just a few local races and got sold then

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl

Gustl I hope that you are doing well.
I agree with the dates, I think that the re-tooling at porsche is done in August/September. As I was told by Klaus Parr when I was a Porsche a few years back. So the 1972 model 914-6 were possibly built in fisical year 1971. Just like today 2007 model cars already on the street in 2006.


But I know that George does not have the last 914-6 built. for the reason of #259 & #260.
I think that #260 is still for sale as I spoke with Udo two weeks ago, it might be going to California.


Thanks and have a good weekend.
Quilmes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[Gustl]

But I know that George does not have the last 914-6 built. for the reason of #259 & #260.

in my opinion we can't know if #240 was the last one built
we know that there are about 20 cars with a higher VIN, but Porsche didn't built them strictly by incrementing VIN and they doesn't have records about the numerical order ...

one indication for #240 to be the last one built would be, that it was used as a factory mule for a couple of years - but off course there's no proof ...

a way to find out more could be to try to get the info of the Karmann chassis numbers of these cars
Dave P. has contacted George but he didn't get 'em (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I tried to get this data from #260 - no luck till now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

I guess we will never know it for sure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl