OT: After-market FI suggestions, I freakin' HATE carbs! |
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OT: After-market FI suggestions, I freakin' HATE carbs! |
Air_Cooled_Nut |
Jun 7 2006, 10:04 AM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
I'm looking for an after-market fuel injection solution for my VW Squareback. It's a bored-n-stroked 2007cc beast with CompuFire DIS-IX ignition and 40mm Dellorto carbs. Those freakin' carbs are the death of me, I can't stand carbs and tuning them is beyond torture.
I understand FI and find it MUCH simpler and easier to work with, so with that in mind, any personal experienced recommendations? I'm looking for a complete system under $2000 -- I don't need ignition management, just fuel (but if it comes w/it I'll take it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ). Laptop tuning would be great but not necessary. I personally think the CB Performance system is too much ($1800) for too little but without actually using it I could be wrong. I know about MegaSquirt but I don't want to build it, just attach it -- or is someone selling completed kits? KitCarlson? Wish there was better info out there on it (since he originally did have it on his Squareback) because it sounds good to me (especially the data logging). |
Dave_Darling |
Jun 7 2006, 10:38 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
How much work are you willing to do? You say you don't want to build MS, but there's a lot of other stuff you will have to do to replace carbs with EFI.
Yes, there are people who sell already-soldered MS boards. You'll still have to work out the wiring, all the fuel plumbing, the air management, and so on. And of course you'll have to program it for your engine. Others can provide programs that are probably pretty close, but you'll still have to do a lot of tuning. You could go with CIS. Parts should be cheap from a boneyard; look for any 80s or early-90s-vintage European four-banger car as a potential donor. You'll still have to do some work to come up with most of the same stuff I mentioned above... No programming, though. SDS EFI will sell you a more complete kit. But you'll still have to deal with air management, fuel distribution, and so on. I think they may provide a wiri ng harness or a partly-complete harness. They also may have a pre-loaded program that will let you get started on your own tuning. There are less parameters to tune with them, I believe. (Though the last time I checked on them was a number of years ago.) Jake sells a specialized version (for the Type IV; is your Square a Type IV conversion?) of the SDS. I don't know exactly what is included. I'm betting it's outside of your price range, though.... Or you could scrounge up the stock EFI parts and tweak from there. You may have to do at least some of that anyway, because that is generally the easiest way to deal with manifolding/air management/fuel distribution/etc. --DD |
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