OT: After-market FI suggestions, I freakin' HATE carbs! Options

[Air_Cooled_Nut]

I'm looking for an after-market fuel injection solution for my VW Squareback. It's a bored-n-stroked 2007cc beast with CompuFire DIS-IX ignition and 40mm Dellorto carbs. Those freakin' carbs are the death of me, I can't stand carbs and tuning them is beyond torture.

I understand FI and find it MUCH simpler and easier to work with, so with that in mind, any personal experienced recommendations? I'm looking for a complete system under $2000 -- I don't need ignition management, just fuel (but if it comes w/it I'll take it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ). Laptop tuning would be great but not necessary. I personally think the CB Performance system is too much ($1800) for too little but without actually using it I could be wrong. I know about MegaSquirt but I don't want to build it, just attach it -- or is someone selling completed kits? KitCarlson? Wish there was better info out there on it (since he originally did have it on his Squareback) because it sounds good to me (especially the data logging).

[lapuwali]

CIS is actually very nice, but you'd have a hard time fitting it under the engine cover in a Square. You could buy a complete D-Jet setup from a later Square, though you may have some top-end airflow problems since the runners/plenum/throttle body are sized for the 60hp 1600. You can also use MS very easily with the D-Jet parts, which frees you from the need to find a working MPS.

If you do need more airflow, you can look at adding fuel injector bungs to the carb manifolds you have and use the Dells as throttle bodies (relatively cheap), or you can buy a set of TWM IDF-style throttle bodies, which should bolt up to the Dell manifolds (quite expensive, though).

Yes, there are several shops that sell pre-assembled and tested MS ECUs, plus wiring harnesses, connectors, etc. All the electrical stuff can be handled by these places. Look in the vendor section of the msefi.com message boards.

The main thing SDS will buy you is handholding from SDS. With the MS, you have to read the MS boards and hold your own hand, or find someone else familiar with the system to help (like several people on this board). The difference is several hundred dollars, so it's up to you.

No matter how you slice it, you're looking at about $1K to do this, minimum. None of the EFI systems are strictly plug and play. Tuning a setup can take just as long as tuning carbs, you just don't have to get fuel all over your hands doing it. Dealing with an EFI system that's not working can be just as frustrating as dealing with carbs that aren't cooperating.

[Mark Henry]

...The main thing SDS will buy you is handholding from SDS.

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